“We were heartbroken. The world had lost a big talent. But as a band we had lost much more”: The rollercoaster story of AC/DC’s Back In Black, the 50-million selling album that emerged from tragedy

Having sold almost 50 million copies, AC/DC’s Back In Black is the biggest rock album in history – but it emerged in the wake of the tragic death of singer Bon Scott. In 2008, guitarists Angus and Malcolm Young plus Bon’s replacement Brian Johnson looked back on the making of a masterpiece.

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Mystery surrounds the precise nature of former AC/DC singer Bon Scott’s death to this day. It’s likely we will never know the exact whys and wherefores. But one thing’s for sure: the frontman’s sudden, unexpected end threw the band into turmoil.

Prior to Bon’s demise, the Aussie boogie merchants had been on the verge of a major worldwide breakthrough. They had been plugging away relentlessly since their formation in 1973. Enlisting super-producer Robert John ‘Mutt’ Lange to add a commercial sheen to their sound, 1979’s Highway To Hell had been a mammoth success on both sides of the Atlantic: Top 10 in the UK; Top 20 in the States. After six years’ hard slog traversing the globe, starting off in the shitholes and graduating to the stadia, they were poised to reap the benefits.

But then Bon Scott quaffed one tipple too many. On February 19, 1980, he was found dead in a car parked outside a house in South London, where he had been left to sleep off the effects of a heavy night. The official cause of death was put down to acute alcohol poisoning. Bon was 33.

Without their talismanic frontman AC/DC’s career was in danger of being shot down in flames. Guitarist Angus Young went into denial after Bon’s tragic death. The school uniform-wearing tyke had been exceptionally close to the lewd’n’crude crooner, Bon was much older than Angus, and the guitarist had lost a father figure as well as a friend.

“We were heartbroken,” Angus says bluntly. “OK, we knew the world had lost a big talent and our fans were devastated. But we as a band had lost much more. We had lost a person we bonded with in life. Honestly, we didn’t know what to do with ourselves at the time.”

AC/DC’s Brian Johnson sitting on a car in 1980

AC/DC’s Brian Johnson in 1980 (Image credit: Mirrorpix via Getty Images)

The million-dollar question of finding a replacement singer wasn’t even on the agenda for AC/DC. The pain was too acute, and Bon wasn’t even buried.

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Flying back to the UK after Bon’s funeral in Australia, Angus and his rhythm guitar-playing brother Malcolm were approached by Peter Mensch, AC/DC’s manager. Peter had drawn up a shortlist of projected new singers, and he shoved the list under the pair’s noses.

“I couldn’t be bothered,” Malcolm says dismissively. “I waved the list away. It wasn’t fucking right, you know?”

Returning to their adopted home of London, Angus and Malcolm (who, like Bon, were born in Scotland but emigrated to Australia at an early age) sat around and twiddled their thumbs. Time passed. They sat around and twiddled their thumbs some more.

Angus: “Eventually Malcolm called me up and said: ‘Instead of us just sitting around and moping, why don’t we do some work? At least that’ll keep us together.’ So we shut the doors and we didn’t think of record companies, managers, or anything like that. We just hid ourselves away and worked on our songs.”

The exercise proved to be extremely therapeutic. By focusing on their music, Angus and Malcolm were able to distance themselves from the trauma of Bon’s death. Block out the bad stuff and concentrate on their craft.

At this stage Angus and Malcolm still weren’t sure if AC/DC had a future. But in the back of their minds was the encouragement they had received from Bon’s father, Charles (aka Chick), at the funeral.

Angus: “Bon’s dad said to Malcolm and me: ‘You must continue with AC/DC. You’re young guys, you’re on the brink of major success and you can’t afford to give up now.’”

Angus and Malcolm decided to soldier on. It was an archetypal example of triumph over adversity.

“Malcolm and me had started the band and, subconsciously, I suppose, we didn’t want it to end,” Angus admits. “We didn’t want to leave things unfinished. Somehow, we couldn’t bear to turn around and say: ‘That’s it, we’re not going to do it anymore.’”

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The news began to seep out: AC/DC were on the hunt for a new frontman. Then the sniping began. Certain factions of the music press criticised Angus and Malcolm for acting with unseemly haste, so soon after Bon’s untimely death.

“We knew we had to confront the question of a new singer,” Angus stresses. “But it wasn’t like we put an advertisement in a music paper that said: ‘AC/DC want a new frontman.’ No, that would have been too over the top. It was subtler than that. People like Bon are unique. They’re special. And we didn’t want someone to come in and copy him. If anything, we wanted someone who was their own character.”

The rumour mill started to grind. Numerous and varied frontmen were queuing up to stake a claim as Bon’s replacement. In the end AC/DC’s choice of new frontman caught everyone on the hop. Step forward a stocky fella in a cloth cap from County Durham in the North-East of England: Brian ‘Beano’ Johnson, singer with 70s glam-rock throwbacks Geordie. Strangely, Bon Scott had an influence on the choice of his successor, even from the grave.

Angus: “We knew Bon was a fan of Brian’s. Bon had seen Brian in England [in 1973] and had been very impressed. Bon was touring with a band he was in before AC/DC called Fraternity, and they opened up for Geordie.”

Brian Johnson – or ‘Jonno’, as he would become known – auditioned for AC/DC on March 29, 1980. Initially, he couldn’t find the rehearsal room where AC/DC were ensconced. The band waited patiently and then went on the lookout for him. They discovered him downstairs playing pool with their roadies.

“It put a little smile on our face,” says Malcolm, “for the first time since Bon.”

Brian put in an impressive performance at his audition, particularly on Whole Lotta Rosie, with lyrics written by Bon to celebrate sexual relations with a rather large woman measuring “42-39-56”.

It was a brave move to tackle a song so intimately associated with Bon. Brian wasn’t convinced he’d done enough to secure the job. Even when AC/DC offered him the position he remained skeptical.

“I remember thinking to myself: ‘Oh Brian, what have you got yourself into?’ I wasn’t scared, though, I was excited. I looked at it, like, well, if I do get fired I can tell me mates I was in AC/DC for a few weeks, and I’d had a nice holiday in London.”

AC/DC’s Brian Johnson and Angus Young performing onstage in 1980

AC/DC’s Brian Johnson and Angus Young onstage in 1980 (Image credit: Michael Putland/Getty Images)

The album that was to become the all- conquering Back In Black was recorded at Compass Point Studios in Nassau, Bahamas, at the end of April through to May 1980. Once again Mutt Lange was in the producer’s chair.

“There was a little bit of pressure to it,” Angus remarks, an understatement of major proportions. “A commitment that we had to complete the record by a certain date. But equally, it was a case of… we could’ve gone in and recorded some tracks and said, ‘No, we don’t like them, it doesn’t feel right.’”

When AC/DC’s plane touched down, the Bahamas was in the midst of a tropical storm.

“It was the best place to do that album because there was nothing going on,” Malcolm reveals. “We’d sit through the night with a couple of bottles of rum with coconut milk in, and work. That’s where a lot of the lyric ideas came from.”

The inclement weather inspired the opening lines to Back In Black’s first track, Hell’s Bells: ‘I’m the rolling thunder, the pouring rain/I’m comin’ on like a hurricane.’

But what about the remainder of Back In Black’s material? Angus admits: “A lot of ideas were in place before Brian arrived.”

But Angus vehemently denies the oft-repeated rumour that AC/DC took the majority of the lyrics from a notebook Bon Scott had left behind after his death. “No,” Angus insists, “there was nothing from Bon’s notebook.”

AC/DC polished off Back In Black in about six weeks. Given that working with producer Mutt Lange was – indeed, still is – a notoriously slow, painstaking process, this was something of a result.

Angus: “After Mutt made Highway To Hell he was in big demand, but I thought it was good for him [to record with AC/DC again]. Especially after what had happened to us. It’s to Mutt’s credit that he still wanted to be involved with us after Bon’s death.”

Brian Johnson breathed a big sigh of relief when recording sessions came to an end. “It was a beautiful sunny day and I went outside, got a ciggie out and sat among some trees. I was so happy that I’d done it. But I hadn’t really heard one song. I’d go in and do a couple of verses, pop back and do a chorus. That’s the way Mutt keeps you interested.”

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Released in America on July 21, 1980 and in Britain and Europe 10 days later – no advance leaking of tracks via the internet in those long-ago days – Back In Black stormed to No.1 in the UK album chart. Over in the US it reached number 4, and stayed in the chart for an epic 131 weeks.

While being an emphatic celebration of AC/DC’s new line-up, Back In Black also paid tribute to Bon Scott.

“Well, that was the whole idea,” says Angus. “The cover was black and the album began with the sound of a tolling bell.”

To date, Back in Black has sold an estimated 50 million copies worldwide, making it the second highest-selling album of all time behind Michael Jackson’s Thriller.

Angus: “Those are incredible figures. Mind-boggling. All we’ve ever done, throughout our career, is record stuff we hope our fans will like. Nothing has been premeditated. That’s how we’ve always approached it. We’ve been that way since the beginning.”

What makes Angus so proud about Back In Black today?

“It’s the fact that we were strong enough at the time to keep ourselves together and see our way through a major tragedy.”

Gazing down from heaven or haring along the highway to hell, either way Bon Scott would’ve been proud.

Originally published in Metal Hammer issue 185, October 2008

I’ve just discovered how many classic seventh records exist and it’s blown my mind

Advance warning: this paragraph contains a clanging name-drop, apologies. A few years ago, I went on a walk across London with Coldplay frontman Chris Martin for a Q Magazine feature. Martin’s band were putting the finishing touches on their 2015 album A Head Full Of Dreams and he was explaining the importance of it being their seventh record.

First off, he said, the colour spectrum had seven colours in it and so with this being Coldplay’s seventh, he saw it as the end of their first spectrum. I nodded. And then he said that there were so many classic seventh records that he wanted this one to live up to it. I said, “Sorry, what?” “Classic seventh records”, he repeated, and then he reeled a few off. And he was right. I’ve become mildly obsessed with it in the years since, the sort of thing I bore friends in the pub about. This week, I decided I would properly investigate and discovered that there’s loads of them. It’s actually quite weird. I’m sure I’ve missed some so maybe you can get in touch and put me right. Unfortunately, Coldplay’s seventh isn’t in this list. It wasn’t their finest (their eighth was quite good though!) but here are a collection of the seven wonders, the magnificent seven, seventh heaven etc for you to inject into the conversation and bore your friends just like I do…

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The Beatles – Revolver

The Fab Four had already established that they were quite good by the time they arrived at Revolver. But this is where things started to get really interesting, introducing psychedelia and studio experimentation into the mix, adding an otherworldly hue to its earthly brilliance.


Radiohead – In Rainbows

The Oxford five-piece had hit a bit of a sticky patch in the mid-00s, 2003’s Hail To The Thief decent but overlong and a subsequent tour leaving Radiohead exhausted. Sessions for In Rainbows were fraught but out of the turmoil they crafted a soulful, rich classic where their analogue art-rock and digital experimentation worked in perfect harmony.


Madonna – Ray Of Light

The queen of pop’s music career needed a boost at the point she approached her seventh album. Enter a collaboration with British electronic producer William Orbit that led to one of the best albums of Madonna‘s career, a swooping dance-pop record shimmying its way between ambient new-age ballads and out and out bangers.


Elton John – Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

Sir Elt’s seventh album contains so many classic singles (the title track, Bennie And The Jets, Candle In The Wind, Saturday Night’s Alright For Fighting) that it’s easy to forget what an ambitiously monumental undertaking it was, a conceptual, cinematic double exploring themes of fame, nostalgia and sex. Elton and Bernie Taupin weren’t in Kansas anymore.


Depeche Mode – Violator

Basildon’s synth-pop pioneers had spent the 80s becoming bigger and better with every album and things hit critical mass with their first record of the 90s. The masterful Violator laid down the template for where electro and rock could intertwine, a blueprint a generation of artists would return to repeatedly over the intervening years. It’s Depeche Mode‘s unbeatable peak.

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The Rolling Stones – Beggars Banquet

The Stones were truly coming into their own when they made 1968’s Beggars Banquet, a lean and feisty rock’n’roll record that kicked off an imperial run of albums for Jagger & co.


U2 – Achtung Baby

The Dublin quartet were one of the world’s biggest bands as the 80s became the 90s but U2 required a bold reinvention after the stale, po-faced live album and film Rattle & Hum. Achtung Baby was a makeover alright, fun, playful and chocka with brilliant tunes. Inspired by rave culture, they crafted a moody rock record with dancing feet.


AC/DC – Back In Black

You could say Aussie rock legends AC/DC needed to make a statement on their seventh album and somewhat over-delivered. Their first record after the tragic death of Bon Scott introduced new singer Brian Johnson and, well, you know the rest. A hard-rock classic, its title and colourless cover were a tribute to their fallen comrade.


Sonic Youth – Dirty

With a pair of records at the start of the 90s, Sonic Youth had shown their peers that daring alt-rock could exist on major labels without compromising themselves. The second of those was the impeccably clattering and Butch Vig-produced Dirty, which the NYC noise specialists made a double just to hammer home the point.


R.E.M. – Out Of Time

Their 1988 album Green had made R.E.M. huge but on its follow-up, the Athens, Georgia quartet truly went supernova. Redressing their sound in an alt-country twang, acoustic guitars and a mandolin alongside their well-honed indie-pop jangle paid off big time.


Bruce Springsteen – Born In The U.S.A.

Here’s where The Boss truly showed he had no-one to answer to. Springsteen had already established himself as a supernaturally gifted songwriting talent but here he wrapped his tales of working-class struggle and patriotic unease in indelible, rock-pop anthems. It made him a global superstar.


Bob Dylan – Blonde On Blonde

The final instalment on a trilogy of “rock” records in the wake of his turning electric, Blonde On Blonde captures a generational talent in the purplest of patches. Bob Dylan recorded his definitive statement in just seven days, a double album featuring some of his all-time best songs.


Iron Maiden – Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son

Iron Maiden were the world’s biggest heavy metal band after 1986’s Somewhere In Time but this was not the moment for complacency. Instead they made this, a gloriously out-there concept album originally meant to be about clairvoyance but also featuring a song about Battersea Dogs Home. A crucial chapter in the Maiden story.


Red Hot Chili Peppers – Californication

Funny how many of these classic seventh records are preceded by troubled sixth efforts. The Chili Peppers looked like they’d run out of steam on 1995’s One Hot Minute but here, revitalised by the return of guitarist John Frusciante, they made their masterpiece, its meld of loose-limbed funk-rock, contemplative slow-tempo singalongs and hook upon hook selling by the bucketload.


The Cure  – Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me

But then you have some bands for whom their seventh wonder is merely the latest entry in a run of imperial brilliance. That’s where The Cure’s effort falls into. They’d released a Greatest Hits set, 1986’s Standing On A Beach, the year before and if that closed one chapter for Robert Smith’s goth-pop behemoths then this gloriously began another. Its beguiling mix of sprawling, atmospheric epics, wistful pop and anthemic alt-rock would put them on the path to the monster Disintegration, released two years later.

“A fan said the teaser was 36 seconds long and already better than The Astonishing… another said they already knew they wouldn’t buy it. You’ve got to love that stuff”: When Dream Theater slimmed down for Distance Over Time

“A fan said the teaser was 36 seconds long and already better than The Astonishing… another said they already knew they wouldn’t buy it. You’ve got to love that stuff”: When Dream Theater slimmed down for Distance Over Time

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After their wildly elaborate and fan-dividing album The Astonishing in 2016, no one was quite sure where Dream Theater would go next. The answer was sign to a new label, decamp to the wilderness and write a new album in three weeks. In 2019 guitarist John Petrucci and vocalist James LaBrie told Prog about Distance Over Time.


Each and every progressive rock band deserving of the mantle, those prepared to take chances and really mess with our heads, have that one difficult album. Melody Maker called Pink Floyd’s The Final Cut “a milestone in the history of awfulness”. Genesis could almost do no wrong until Abacab sent them down the pop path. Tales From Topographic Oceans was so divisive that not even all of the members of Yes liked it. With Dream Theater, it was The Astonishing.

More than two hours of music broken down into 34 chapters and two separate acts, the US/Canadian band’s double album tale of “a retro-futurist post-apocalyptic dystopia ruled by medieval style feudalism” set on Earth was, perhaps inevitably, received with a mix of joy, despair and complete confusion.

Circa its release in 2016, guitarist John Petrucci was unapologetic, telling Prog: “This might sound clichéd but to us, the art is all-important. It really is. We are lucky enough to write the music that we want to, and people will either enjoy it or they won’t. We hope that they do, but it’s not our motivation.”

Looking back, Petrucci still regards The Astonishing as something that Dream Theater simply had to get off their collective chest.

“From beginning to end it took three years of planning, but it was immensely satisfying in a creative sense,” he says. “The live show took another year to develop and since then a novel was written based on the story. There was also a video game. I found all of that extremely fulfilling.”

Perhaps surprisingly, reviewers welcomed The Astonishing. Metacritic.com, a website that aggregates the responses of leading writers, calculated an 80 per cent rating. But there’s no disputing that some people really, really didn’t like it.

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“We kind of knew they wouldn’t,” agrees the guitarist. “I mean, some of its songs were just noise. For the typical Dream Theater fan, especially those more in tune with the metal side of what we do, it was always going to be tough to digest. But at the same time we had faith in our audience as being open-minded.”

Were there nights when we realised we had bitten off more than we could chew? Oh yeah!

James LaBrie

“It was a rock opera, and when I listen to it I still hear all of the elements of Dream Theater music,” pipes up singer James LaBrie. “In a world of soundbites, we elected to push everything to the maximum. Some people simply chose not to get it, and that was fine, too.”

Online reports suggest that The Astonishing sold as little as 164,000 copies in the US; fewer than the band’s previous two records, A Dramatic Turn Of Events and Dream Theater.

“I’ll take your word on that,” Petrucci responds good-naturedly. “But I will say that, of course, record sales overall have dwindled.”

“Had you told us that 20 years ago we’d have gone: ‘Whaaat? Holy shit, hang on a second!’” LaBrie laughs. “But now it’s par for the course.”

“Back in the 1990s, to get onto the Billboard Top Ten – a list we’ve been on many times – you had to sell in the region of a million copies in the first week, now it’s like 36,000,” Petrucci adds. “Things are completely different.”

To promote the album Dream Theater played around 100 shows throughout 2016 in relatively intimate halls by their usual standards, using theatrical props to re-tell The Astonishing in what Petrucci had termed a “sci-fi-meets-Game Of Thrones but almost medieval” manner. This would prove a bigger undertaking than they had anticipated.

“Were there nights when we realised we had bitten off more than we could chew?” LaBrie muses, before erupting with laughter. “Oh yeah. Had you seen us backstage at the first show at the London Palladium you’d know the answer to that question. We were so nervous.”

Playing Images And words again in its entirety was a lot of fun – it was great to relive that same tour again 25 years later

James LaBrie

“It had taken a year to get the animation together, and then the effects had to be timed with the music,” Petrucci reveals. “In rehearsal, getting those things synced, well… it almost didn’t happen. We were elated that things went so well at the Palladium, and by the tour’s end things ran like clockwork. I think those shows were pretty special.”

Next up, Dream Theater eased back into their comfort zone via a year-long tour to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the group’s celebrated second album, Images And Words.

“Playing that album again in its entirety was a lot of fun, especially as it hadn’t been done since a gig in Germany back in 2007 – it was great to relive that same tour again 25 years later,” LaBrie states.

“The most frustrating thing about that tour was the time constraints,” Petrucci smiles. “In between the Images And Words songs and the encore of A Change Of Seasons [which lasts for 23 minutes], James would tell stories of those days. They were fun to hear but it was a lot to squeeze into one night. Eventually we had some popcorn made and threw it at him to hurry him up!”

Following the sprawling excess of The Astonishing, the birth of Dream Theater’s 14th studio album could not have been any simpler. Distance Over Time was written very succinctly, in less than a month, as the bandmembers – completed by keyboard player Jordan Rudess, bassist John Myung and drummer Mike Mangini – lived, worked, cohabited, drank wine and enjoyed barbecues together in idyllic surroundings.

“I must thank my wife for the idea,” Petrucci reveals. “The last tour had been a long one and she suggested we go away together, reconnect and re-bond. Either that or she was trying to get rid of me. But it was a great suggestion.”

Dream Theater headed to a place called the Yonderbarn in Upstate New York, not too far from Woodstock.

We wanted to keep things raw and organic, and emphasise the fun side of the band with some jamming

John Petrucci

“It couldn’t have been more perfect,” Petrucci enthuses. “It was a five-acre property with a farmhouse where we all stayed. What we were not looking for was a recording studio: all we needed was a place to write.”

Nevertheless, when the band arrived they found the premises had a barn suitable for recording, but no equipment that would allow them to do so. They were so in love with the place that bringing in the hardware to lay down their new music was, in the words of Petrucci, “a complete no-brainer”.

“It was an unbelievable setting with large windows and natural light, overlooking a forest full of deer and badgers,” he elaborates. “We’d booked the place for eight weeks, after which we’d move out and record the drums in Long Island and maybe do the guitars in my basement, but having written the record in just three weeks it became obvious – why would we leave?”

At just under 57 minutes long, excluding its bonus track of Viper King, Distance Over Time is the first Dream Theater studio album since Images And Words with a playing time under one hour. It’s also only their third to feature no songs of longer than 10 minutes. It’s sleek, super-powerful and fat-free. Had they felt under pressure to deliver something a little less demanding than The Astonishing?

“We were not really that conscious of that, but everyone was on the same page,” Petrucci considers. “We knew that we wanted to keep the writing concise but keep things raw and organic, also to emphasise the fun side of the band with some jamming.”

With Distance Over Time set to be Dream Theater’s debut for their new home of InsideOut Music, LaBrie adds that the band felt conscious of beginning a new chapter in their history.

I remember being a fan, cranking and appreciating an album – that euphoria can get lost when people dissect every little nuance in an audio sense

James LaBrie

“That was conducive to how we felt entering the studio,” the singer enthuses. “We were stoked by what we’d written and the label felt the same way. Those feelings really lent themselves to making a heavier, more stripped-down album.”

Since the departure of co-founding drummer Mike Portnoy in 2010, Petrucci has been a sole producer of Dream Theater’s records, a duty that the pair had previously shared. This has attracted its share of criticism from certain fans, some of them expressing the view that Portnoy’s successor, Mike Mangini, just isn’t audible enough. Distance Over Time sees this problem being addressed.

“Oh, I’m very much aware of the topics of discussion that revolve around the Dream Theater universe,” Petrucci acknowledges with a semi-smirk. “Whether it’s the sound of the snare, or that the albums have been over-compressed, or maybe you can’t hear the bass. I was done with all of that. What I wanted to do as a producer was remove any of those distractions.

“To me that’s exactly what they are,” he elaborates. “With the first few Dream Theater records nobody was concerned about those issues. I don’t want them to be talking points anymore, only the excitement of how it used to be with those early records.”

Are some people a little too picky? “Yeah,” Petrucci fires back instantly. “But that’s the nature of our fanbase. It’s a double-edged sword – who else is going to appreciate this kind of music except somebody that’s discerning? But that brings a big contingent of technologically minded audiophiles who listen to music in a different way.”

LaBrie is in firm agreement. “I can still remember being a fan, cranking and appreciating an album – that euphoria can get lost when people dissect every little nuance in an audio sense. To me, it misses the whole point. It’s kinda stupid.”

Mike Mangini sent us massive emails for when somebody else wrote the lyrics. But he had a try at writing them himself and they were really good

John Petrucci

In another first for the band, Distance… introduces Mike Mangini, who contributed the quirky Room 137, as a composer for the band. With its life-questioning themes (‘What’s the message?/Am I running out of time?’), it’s an interesting song.

“Mike had this whole story about how the number 137 is a prime repetitive number in the universe, like Pi or something,” Petrucci explains. “It’s behind everything in physics. This philosopher guy Wolfgang Pauli drove himself crazy trying to figure it out. And he died in hospital in Room 137.

“So Mike sent us these massive emails of research about Wolfgang Pauli for when somebody else wrote the lyrics,” he continues. “But later he had a try at writing them himself and they were really good.”

Elsewhere, LaBrie supplied a track entitled At Wit’s End, which might even be considered the first progressive rock song of the #MeToo movement.

“I hadn’t thought of it like that, but now you mention it is about women being mistreated, disrespected and taken advantage of in a sexual sense,” nods the singer. “I had read an article which revealed the high percentage of couples that break up after the female is raped. More often than not the relationship doesn’t last because the woman believes that the man will no longer be able to look at her in the same way. And as much as the man tries to convince her that it’s okay to carry on, she never quite believes him. So the rape ruins the lives of two people.”

The album closes with its longest track. Penned by Petrucci and inspired by Carl Sagan’s 1994 book of the same name, Pale Blue Dot is an eight-minute piece that pleads for responsibility towards the planet. ‘Adrift in space we’re on our own/Who’s out there/ To save us from ourselves?’ wonders the ecologically aware guitarist in the song’s final line.

“The story behind that song is quite serendipitous,” explains Petrucci. “My father was a big fan of Carl Sagan and there was a weird series of events. My daughter graduated from New York University and at that ceremony they gave honorary degrees to the scientists and astrophysicists of the Voyager Mission [of 1977]. It inspired me to dig into that whole thing, also the Golden Record [a time capsule that contains sounds and images selected to portray the diversity of life and culture on Earth].

The mix of a song would come back with a message saying, ‘You’re not going to like this, there’s no guitar in verse two’

John Petrucci

“A while later, my daughter and I happened to see a TV documentary on Voyagers 1 and 2, so the subject just kept on coming back to me,” he continues. “The title of the book and the song stems from a photograph taken of the Earth from space, and how our planet is a nothing but a little tiny speck. Everything that has ever happened on it in human history – all of the things we consider so important such as wars, relationships and bloodspills – are of negligible consequence in the grand scheme
of things.”

For LaBrie, having portrayed multiple characters on The Astonishing, Distance Over Time represented a far easier day at the office.

“I really wanted to keep this album clean voice-driven,” he agrees. “There were a couple of moments where I considered going raspy and seeking a Chris Cornell-type approach, but I decided against that.”

Some of the tracks (Untethered Angel and Room 137, for instance) even have heavily treated vocals, which is another first for Dream Theater.

“That’s all down to Ben Grosse, our mixing engineer,” Petrucci enthuses. “He did a phenomenal job. Normally I would be present at that process, but Ben was in LA and we had just spent four months in the studio because that’s the way he likes to work, so I left everything in his hands.”

Five years ago, would you have been able to do that?

“No, I absolutely could not,” John affirms. “It was a bit of letting go, and I’m so happy that I did. Fresh ears can be a valuable thing and Ben did some amazing things. He even cut guitar parts out altogether. The mix of a song would come back with a message saying, ‘You’re not going to like this, there’s no guitar in verse two.’ But what he’d done was really, really cool.”

After 14 albums, that can only be a good thing.

“It’ll definitely be another of those topics of discussion,” LaBrie laughs. “That’s something you can bet on.”

We’re funny to one another, but as a band we’re kind of boring on social media

John Petrucci

The build-up towards the unveiling of Distance Over Time began with an online treasure hunt that allowed a search for clues and ultimately the discovery of the album title.

“It was all about trying to engage with the fans, and I liked the idea,” Petrucci explains. “We’re funny to one another, but as a band we’re kind of boring on social media.”

The pair hoot with laughter at the reminder that when the first YouTube teaser clip was posted one wag wrote: “[It’s just] 36 seconds [long and already] better than The Astonishing.”

“Another said: ‘It’s only 36 seconds long and I know that I’m not going to buy this album!’” Petrucci adds. “You’ve got to love that stuff.”

As previously mentioned, this album sees the band leap from Roadrunner, with whom they re-signed two albums ago in 2012, onto Sony Music’s prog subsidiary InsideOut. What happened?

“Our contract expired,” Petrucci shrugs. “Roadrunner treated us incredibly well, and creatively speaking we did some of the best things of our career on that label, but the deal was up and we could either renew again or go elsewhere.”

There was a certain inevitability about where they might end up.

“Thomas [Waber, head honcho of InsideOut] has been lurking for quite a while,” laughs Petrucci. “He made us an offer we couldn’t refuse.”

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“We did examine other options but first and foremost Thomas is a fan,” LaBrie insists. “He gets who we are and knows where we want to go.”

In March 2019 Dream Theater will begin a tour that combines songs from Distance Over Time with a 20th anniversary commemoration of their conceptual masterpiece Metropolis Pt 2: Scenes From A Memory.

“It’s unlikely that we’ll play the full-length Scenes From A Memory and also Distance Over Time in its entirety because that would lead to some very disgruntled fans,” LaBrie predicts, “but discussions about the show’s breakdown are not too far away.”

Neither are Dream Theater entirely certain of when they might make indoor appearances in Europe, where they have been confirmed for a string of festivals including Download on June 16.

“It’s a good question and right now I haven’t got an answer,” Petrucci smiles. “But there’s one thing I do know for sure – it’ll happen.”

Dave Ling was a co-founder of Classic Rock magazine. His words have appeared in a variety of music publications, including RAW, Kerrang!, Metal Hammer, Prog, Rock Candy, Fireworks and Sounds. Dave’s life was shaped in 1974 through the purchase of a copy of Sweet’s album ‘Sweet Fanny Adams’, along with early gig experiences from Status Quo, Rush, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, Yes and Queen. As a lifelong season ticket holder of Crystal Palace FC, he is completely incapable of uttering the word ‘Br***ton’.

“I always thought that Pink Floyd were a band for people who don’t like music or rock’n’roll”: Jack Bruce’s wild tales of Ginger Baker, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Leslie West and more

“I always thought that Pink Floyd were a band for people who don’t like music or rock’n’roll”: Jack Bruce’s wild tales of Ginger Baker, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Leslie West and more

Jack Bruce posing for a photograph with a bass guitar in 2001
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The late Jack Bruce was one of the greats of British music. A highly respected figure on the British jazz and R&B circuit in the early 1960s, he made his name playing with The Graham Bond Organisation but it was Cream – the late 60s supergroup he formed with Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton – that propelled him to stardom, In 2008, Bruce – who passed away in 2014 – sat down with Classic Rock to look back over at his first encounters with Baker and Clapton, magical times with the doomed Graham Bond, the brilliance of George Harrison and Jimi Hendrix, the bizarre eating habits of man-Mountain Leslie West and the accidental formation of Pink Floyd, something he wasn’t sure whether was a good thing or not.

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Graham Bond

When I first met Graham he lived in Romford, he was a salesman and he was very confident. But then as time went on he changed; he became this other person who got into this magic. And then he became very enigmatic, yeah [laughs]. He got into heavy drugs; he didn’t do well behind that one. Things went a bit spong in his life. They came to repossess his organ during one show because he hadn’t paid his maintenance or alimony, whatever.

The next time I saw him after a long time, he came to see me when Cream were playing Madison Square Garden. He showed up backstage with his then girlfriend. He was wearing this robe right down to the ground and he had a magic wand. They both looked very outstanding. I’ve got some of his artefacts that somehow came to me after he died. I think everyone was too scared to take them. I’ve got this five-point star with a ruby in the middle, also a Peruvian magic axe with symbols on it. The guy who gave them to me was terrified of the stuff, and I thought if I said no that could make things worse [laughs].


Ginger Baker

The very first time I met Ginger was in 1962. I was playing in a trad band and we were playing at the Cambridge May Ball. I heard this amazing music coming from the cellar, and I went down and there was this astounding band. The first thing I noticed was this drummer. He was the loudest drummer I’d ever heard and he looked so weird as well – like a caveman. And his kit looked weird as well. I went up to Dick Heckstall-Smith, the saxophone player, and asked if I could join.


Eric Clapton

I’d vaguely heard of him before, and the first time I met him was at a jam at the Windsor Jazz Festival. That was the first time I played with Eric, and I remember being quite impressed with him then. And then he started coming down to a few of our gigs when I was with Graham Bond.

I’ve recently realised that I’ve had a certain role in Cream. It’s quite funny. I was watching a quiz programme a couple of weeks ago and one of the questions was: “Jimmy Page was the lead guitarist in: a) Cream, b) Black Sabbath and c) Led Zeppelin.” And the contestant said: “I know it’s not Cream, because I used to like that band. That was the band with Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker and…” I was shouting at the telly: “Oh no! Please remember my name!” “…And Jack Bruce, I think it was.” I breathed a sigh of relief.

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Cream in 1966: (from left) Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker, Jack Bruce (Image credit: Ivan Keeman/Redferns)

Jimi Hendrix and Pink Floyd

I first met Hendrix when we [Cream] did a gig at the Regents Polytechnic. Coincidentally, the guys that became Pink Floyd were in the audience, and apparently seeing that event made them become Pink Floyd. When I saw them recently, they told me that. I knew they were there, but I didn’t know that we were responsible for them getting together. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing I leave that for you to decide. I always thought that Pink Floyd were a band for people who don’t like music or rock’n’roll.

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So anyway, back to Hendrix. We were playing Regents Polytechnic. I was just having a pre-gig pint in a pub across the road and in comes this guy who turns out to be Jimi Hendrix. Now, we had already heard about Jimi on the grapevine. Jimi came up to me and said: “Hi. I would like to sit in with the band.” I said it was fine with me but he’d obviously have to check it out with Eric and Ginger. So we went across to the gig, and Eric immediately said yes and Ginger said: “Oh, dunno about that” [laughs]. So he came on and plugged into my bass amp, and as far as I can remember he just blew us all away.

Hendrix had a positive effect on everybody, especially guitar players. He came to the sessions when we [Cream] did White Room in New York and was very encouraging about the song. He came up to me and said: “Wow, I wish I could write something like that.” I said: “Jimi, what you’ve got to realise is that I probably nicked it off you.”


Gary Moore

I love Gary. I’ve played with him on and off over the years. I organised a band with Gary, Gary Husband [drums] and myself. I thought about changing my name and calling it The Three Garys. We wanted to do some more gigs but Gary Husband had some other commitments. So we had to get this other fella, Ginger Baker, in to take his place.

Gary was very meticulous about rehearsals, quite rightly. Ginger always said: “I don’t need to rehearse,” and he always got things wrong. I remember him storming into Brixton Academy where we were rehearsing, I could hear his voice: “I’ll kill that fucking Jack Bruce!” He’s taking it out on me and I hadn’t even seen him yet! But it was my fault we were rehearsing. That’s Ginger. We’re like the Odd Couple. Having said that, he is one of the greatest drummers of all time.

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George Harrison

I met George during the session Cream did for Badge, and I was very impressed with his playing [under the pseudonym L’Angelo Mysterioso]. I took it for granted that people like McCartney and Lennon were brilliant but didn’t really analyse it. But when you actually play with George you could see what an amazing guitar player he was, doing things that I hadn’t even thought of.


John McLaughlin

He was doing sessions but he wasn’t doing great. He’d just made that amazing solo record, Devotion. Both Tony Williams and Miles Davis wanted him to join their bands but he didn’t have the money to get to the States. At the time, I was recording what I thought was a trio. I thought, well, I could get John and make it a quartet, he could get paid and everybody’s happy. When I first knew him he was a good guitar player, but I wouldn’t put him any higher than that. Then I think he got into his meditation, Sri Chimnoy, and it seemed to really work for him. He became very turned on musically. The next time I played with him was with Lifetime and he was quite phenomenal.


Frank Zappa

I’ve got a lot of respect for Frank, but it was always the Mothers that I loved. When I was living in Germany [in the early 1990s], I got a phone call from The Mothers and I went to see them. They were living in this one little room, cooking spaghetti on a little hob. And I was thinking: ‘Fuck me! This ain’t right. This is The Mothers we’re talking about here.” It really annoyed me. And what really got to me was that they inducted Frank into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame but the rest of the guys didn’t get any recognition. They were certainly affected badly by that.


Jack Bruce and Leslie West performing onstage in 1972

Jack Bruce and Leslie West onstage in Copenhagen in 1972 (Image credit: Jorgen Angel/Redferns)

Leslie West & Corky Laing

West, Bruce & Laing played the late, lamented Rainbow in Finsbury Park. It was a really great gig and the audience went bananas. My manager, Robert Stigwood, came out and handed me a bottle of champagne but it was wrapped up, for some reason, in tin foil. I was so excited that I threw it into the crowd. It must be a thing that I do. As I launched it into the air I thought: “Fucking hell! I’m just about to kill somebody. This is terrible.” And I threw it so hard that it went right to the back and hit the wall and then bounced off. I went backstage and Leslie West’s manager, Bud Prager, comes in with blood pouring from his face and didn’t know what happened. Prager, a terrible guy, got hit by it, so everything was alright [laughs]. Fantastic result! I was really made up.

Leslie West had a lovely sound on his guitar. That’s the first thing that comes to mind. The first time I met him and Corky Laing was with Mountain. What can I say about West, Bruce & Laing? It was a band, it was an experience. It disintegrated into a welter of smack, unfortunately. The 60s were really innocent and nice and romantic; the 70s were a bit heavier, more serious and certainly had worse drug use going around.

I always wondered how Leslie could stay fat while he was on heroin. He used to have a secret stash of food, while the rest of us ‘normal’ folk would have a stash of drugs. If you went for a meal with him he’d never eat anything. That way people might think his size was due to glandular problems. Then later at night he’d have a food roadie that he’d boss around: “Hey, gimme a cheeseburger!”

They’re always trying to get in touch with me and want to play with me. So I get my manager to email back really abusive things like: “Tell them that I don’t want to play that fucking crap music again anymore” or something. And they still keep trying. How do you get these guys to stop

Originally published in Classic Rock issue 120, May 2008

Pete Makowski joined Sounds music weekly aged 15 as a messenger boy, and was soon reviewing albums. When no-one at the paper wanted to review Deep Purple‘s Made In Japan in December 1972, Makowski did the honours. The following week the phone rang in the Sounds office. It was Purple guitarist Ritchie Blackmore. “Thanks for the review,” said Blackmore. “How would you like to come on tour with us in Europe?” He also wrote for Street Life, New Music News, Kerrang!, Soundcheck, Metal Hammer and This Is Rock, and was a press officer for Black SabbathHawkwindMotörhead, the New York Dolls and more. Sounds Editor Geoff Barton introduced Makowski to photographer Ross Halfin with the words, “You’ll be bad for each other,” creating a partnership that spanned three decades. Halfin and Makowski worked on dozens of articles for Classic Rock in the 00-10s, bringing back stories that crackled with humour and insight. Pete died in November 2021.

Why Aerosmith Is The Greatest American Rock Band Of All Time

Aerosmith Band

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The story of Aerosmith’s rise and fall and continued rebirth depicts one of the great pages of Rock and Roll history. The “Bad Boys from Boston” have never stopped, never even slowed down, even when things weren’t looking so good. Theirs is a story of perseverance and how perseverance pays off. Their story is rich and complicated, but that goes with the territory. Regardless of all the trials and tribulations the band experienced, once they set foot on the stage, their power was undeniable. Everything that makes rock and roll so special, Aerosmith defined on stage night after night.

In the late 1960s, musicians Steven Tyler and Joe Perry played in bands around the Boston area. Tyler was the drummer and backup singer for a band called The Chain Reaction. Joe Perry was the lead guitarist for The Jam Band, featuring Tom Hamilton on bass and Joey Kramer on drums. In 1970, the two bands performed on the same bill together. The two groups began to entertain the idea of uniting as one. Tyler insisted that he would agree only if allowed to move out from behind the drums and take over the lead singer role. The rest agreed, and the line-up that would endure for most of 45 years was completed. Rhythm guitarist Ray Tabano was added, and the band began its rehearsals.

The name Aerosmith was apparently coined by Joey Kramer, who claims it was a reference to Harry Nilsson’s album Aerial Ballet. However, others have stated it was related to a Sinclair Lewis novel.

Aerosmith’s first official gig was at a high school in Mendon, Massachusetts, on November 6th, 1970. By January of the following year Tabano was out and guitarist Brad Whitford was in. The band was quickly developing a reputation for their hard-rocking, high-energy performances, and it wasn’t long before Clive Davis, President of Columbia Records, came to see them at Max’s Kansas City in NYC. Only there was a problem. Aerosmith wasn’t supposed to play the night Davis was attending. They scraped their money together and managed to pay their way onto the bill that night, surely the best investment of their lives as Davis signed them in 1972 for $125,000.

Their self-titled debut album hit the streets in January of 1973 to minor success. It only reached number 166 on the Billboard charts but the lead single, “Dream On,” crept up to number 59. Their second studio effort, Get Your Wings

, dropped in 1974 and spawned three singles that failed to chart. After extensive touring in support of the release the band went back into the studio to record their third effort, what many believe was their breakout recording.

Toys in the Attic

was released in April of 1975 behind the single “Sweet Emotion,” the band’s first Top 40 hit. Rising to number 11, Toys catapulted the band to national and international status making their touring schedule more hectic and hedonistic. In 1976, Columbia Records re-released “Dream On” as a single, only this time it reached number six. Shortly thereafter, they re-released “Walk This Way,” which climbed to number 10. The remarkable re-release success of the two singles drove their first two records back onto the charts as well. This time around, their debut reached number 11, and Get Your Wings made it to number 74.

More touring kept the band from releasing their next record until almost a year later. Rocks

came out in May 1976 and made its way to number 3 behind a top-25 single, “Last Child.” Rocks  is considered their most influential album.

1977 saw the release of Draw The Line

, but the wildly successful band was beginning to show signs of the strain. Excessive drinking and drug use, along with the intense touring schedule, were taking their toll, and it was beginning to show in their performances. Joe Perry and Steven Tyler were labeled “The Toxic Twins” for their excessive drug use in and around the shows.

Perry and Tyler made a guest appearance in the film Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band featured their cover of The Beatles’ “Come Together.” The song became a Top 40 hit and kept Aerosmith in the limelight, for the time being.

The band began recording their sixth studio project in 1979. During breaks in the recording process they would hit the road for as many dates as possible. The tension simmering below the surface was coming to a head and finally boiled over at a show in July of that year. A backstage altercation between Tyler, Perry, and their wives led to Perry officially quitting the band. He immediately formed the Joe Perry Project and set about recording. Jimmie Crespo was hired as a replacement.

The band finished the recording, and Night in the Ruts

was released in November of that year. While it didn’t generate huge sales, it did reach number 14 on the charts but failed to chart any singles or gain much attention. The band’s popularity was waning and the subsequent tour found them playing in smaller and smaller venues to smaller and smaller crowds. Tyler’s drug use was reaching epic proportions, resulting in missing shows and collapsing onstage in 1980. The band was falling apart in every way.

Aerosmith’s Greatest Hits was released in part to soothe impatient fans who wanted the next studio record. Greatest Hits was a slow build but ended up being their best-selling album, racking up over 11 million sales. Soon after, Steven Tyler was badly injured in a motorcycle accident and found himself in a hospital for over two months.

After Tyler had recovered, the band began recording for Rock In A Hard Place

. After recording the first song, Whitford had had enough and quit, opting to play in the Joe Perry Project. Journeyman Rick Dufay replaced Whitford. The album hit number 32, and the one single, “Lightning Strikes,” reached number 21. Perry’s face began to be seen around the group again, and a reunion seemed to be in the works, but Tyler’s issues continued, and he collapsed on stage again.

On February 14th, 1984, Joe Perry and Brad Whitford officially re-joined the band, and while the ensuing Back In The Saddle Again tour was a financial success, the band was reaching rock bottom. They signed with Geffen Records but failed to produce another record. Meanwhile, their old label, Columbia, released two live records, Classics Live I & II, and another compilation record called Gems.1985 saw their next album, Done With Mirrors, which brought no hits and garnered little attention. The band continued to tour and tour until they found a hit song in the unlikeliest places.

Hip-hop icons Run DMC sampled and covered “Walk This Way” and invited Perry and Tyler to be part of the music video. The song hit number four on the charts, not only affirming that hip-hop was here to stay but also introducing Aerosmith to an entirely new generation of music lovers.

By 1986, the problems peaked, and an intervention was conducted for Steven Tyler. A stint in rehab followed. Manager Tim Collins then challenged the other members, reportedly promising to make them the greatest band in the world if they all got clean and sober. In short order, all members checked themselves into rehab and took on the challenge of reinventing themselves as sober musicians.

Collins must have known what he was doing because a cleaned-up Aerosmith was a massive success. They immediately recorded Permanent Vacation, which hit the stores in September of 1987. Besides being their first sober record, it was also the first record utilizing outside songwriting talent, something the band was reticent to accept. Ultimately, the combination proved powerful as the album produced three Top 20 singles, including “Dude Looks Like A Lady, Rag Doll, and Angel,” which reached number 3. Aerosmith was back and in a big, big way.

After a challenging tour with Guns N’ Roses, the follow-up to Vacation was 1989’s Pump. The Pump album reached number five and dropped three singles: “Jamie’s Got a Gun, Love In An Elevator,” and “What It Takes,” all of which reached the Top 10. The band received their first Grammy and two video music awards. A grueling 12-month tour followed.

Get a Grip was released in 1992. It was the band’s first number one and featured three Top 20 singles and one Top 40. Two years of touring later, another compilation, Big Ones, reached number six.

The next record, Nine Lives, was released in March 1999 amidst a whirlwind of changes: a new manager, a new producer, and injuries to Tyler and Kramer. The list went on and on, but Nine Lives still managed to hit number one.

In 1998, the love theme from the movie Armageddon became the band’s first and only number-one single. “Don’t Wanna Miss A Thing” received massive airplay, and the band rode its success over the next leg of touring.

In March of 2001, Just Push Play was released and reached number two behind the single “Jaded,” which reached number seven. That same year, the band was the featured performer at the Super Bowl halftime show, being joined onstage by ‘NYSNC, Britney SpearsMary J Blige, and Nelly. Shortly thereafter, the band was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, receiving the honor of being the only band ever inducted while having a single on the charts.

In 2003, Aerosmith teamed up with Kiss to co-headline the Rocksimus Maximus tour, which played to arenas around the globe. Honkin’ With Bobo, the band’s long-awaited blues album came out in 2004 to little fanfare but still reached number five. A Spring 2006 tour with Cheap Trick was canceled abruptly when it was announced that Steven Tyler was undergoing throat surgery. By August, Tyler was back, and the Route of All Evil Tour was announced, featuring Aerosmith and Motley Crüe. While on tour, another compilation was released, “Devil’s Got a New Disguise,” which featured two new songs and reached number 15.

A 2009 tour with ZZ Top was plagued with injuries and setbacks including Tyler’s broken shoulder after he fell off the stage in Sturgis, South Dakota. The rest of the tour had to be canceled while Tyler recovered from his injuries. By the end of that year, Tyler announced he was pulling out of any subsequent touring to pursue his projects. On December 22nd, it was announced that Tyler would be entering rehab again to deal with a painkiller addiction that resulted from his many injuries.

In January 2010, Joe Perry announced the band would be holding auditions for his replacement, evoking a cease-and-desist letter from Tyler’s legal team. However, it wasn’t long before Tyler was back with the band.

In August of that year, Tyler signed on as a judge for the hit television show American Idol, which angered the rest of the group. However, Tyler assured them he would continue touring and recording with them while working on the show.

In 2012Music From Another Dimension was released, followed by more touring. This installment was called the Global Warming Tour, and it carried the band into 2014, when yet another tour was announced, this one featuring Slash from Guns N’ Roses. The next in the endless column of tour dates was The Blue Army Tour, which took the band into 2015. With Steven Tyler’s throat issues in 2024, the band’s future status is up in the air.

It would be difficult to find a harder-working, more dedicated band anywhere in the world. Aerosmith has been a major influence on countless artists. They have strong American roots. They’ve had a long life filled with ups and downs and then ups again, but looking back, it’s easy to see why Aerosmith is the Greatest American Rock Band of all time.

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Complete List Of Black Sabbath Band Members

Black Sabbath Band Members

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Black Sabbath’s legacy is built not just on its groundbreaking music but on the many musicians who passed through its ranks over the decades. What started in 1968 as a four-piece band in Birmingham, England, became a constantly evolving force in heavy metal, with Tony Iommi as its only consistent member. From the original lineup that pioneered the genre to the many vocalists, drummers, bassists, and keyboardists who shaped different eras of the band, each musician left their mark on Sabbath’s ever-changing history.

This article documents every member who played a role in Black Sabbath, whether for a brief period or across multiple decades. Some were part of the band’s most iconic moments, while others contributed to transitional periods that kept the band moving forward. Each lineup change brought a different sound, from the doom-laden blues of the early years to the melodic metal of the Tony Martin era. By examining each musician’s time in the band, we gain a deeper understanding of how Black Sabbath continuously reinvented itself while remaining a defining force in rock and metal.

Tony Iommi

Tony Iommi has been the driving force behind Black Sabbath since its formation, serving as the band’s only continuous member. His guitar work shaped the foundation of heavy metal, creating a sound that was darker, heavier, and more ominous than anything that had come before. His signature downtuned playing, developed after an industrial accident severed the tips of two of his fingers, gave Black Sabbath its unmistakable heaviness. Iommi’s riff-driven style defined legendary tracks such as Iron Man, Paranoid, and Children of the Grave, setting the standard for generations of metal guitarists to follow. Beyond his guitar work, he also contributed keyboards on select recordings between 1971 and 1976 and provided backing vocals in 1978.

As the band evolved through different lineups, Iommi remained at its core, steering Black Sabbath through the Ozzy Osbourne years, the Ronnie James Dio era, and later, the Tony Martin period. His leadership ensured the band’s survival and evolution, culminating in their final studio album, 13, in 2013. Even after the band’s farewell The End Tour in 2017, Iommi remains synonymous with Black Sabbath. With a 2025 one-off reunion on the horizon, he once again proves that his connection to the band is unbreakable.

Bill Ward

Bill Ward’s drumming played a crucial role in shaping Black Sabbath’s early sound, blending power, jazz influences, and unpredictable fills that gave their music an unmistakable groove. His thunderous playing drove classics like War Pigs, Fairies Wear Boots, and Hand of Doom, delivering both precision and raw energy. Beyond drumming, Ward occasionally contributed lead vocals, most notably on It’s Alright from Technical Ecstasy and Swinging the Chain from Never Say Die! His distinctive playing style helped Black Sabbath stand apart from their peers, as his ability to shift between dynamic restraint and explosive intensity brought a unique feel to the band’s sound.

Despite his integral role, Ward’s time in the band was marked by departures and returns. He initially left in 1980 due to personal struggles but made several comebacks over the years, including stints in 1982, 1984, 1994, and during the 1997 reunion. His absence from Black Sabbath’s final The End Tour in 2017 was controversial, but his legacy as the band’s original drummer remains unquestioned. With a 2025 reunion planned, the possibility of Ward returning to the stage alongside his former bandmates would be a historic moment for Black Sabbath fans.

Geezer Butler

Geezer Butler was the primary lyricist for Black Sabbath, crafting the dark and thought-provoking themes that defined the band’s image and message. His bass playing was equally important, delivering thick, intricate grooves that formed the backbone of Sabbath’s sound. His style, influenced by blues and early rock, was a key ingredient in tracks like N.I.B., Into the Void, and Children of the Grave. Unlike many bassists of his era, Butler often played melodic counterpoints to Iommi’s crushing guitar riffs, giving the music an added layer of depth.

Beyond his role as a bassist, Butler’s lyrical themes of war, social issues, and the occult helped establish the band’s identity. His contributions extended through multiple lineups, including the original era, the Dio-fronted Heaven and Hell, and the later 13 album. Although he officially retired from touring in 2017, his legacy as one of heavy metal’s most influential bassists is cemented. A 2025 reunion would provide an opportunity for fans to see Butler return to the stage, reinforcing his place in the band’s legendary history.

Ozzy Osbourne

Ozzy Osbourne’s unmistakable voice and wild stage presence helped make Black Sabbath one of the most influential rock bands of all time. His eerie, almost trance-like vocal delivery brought an apocalyptic feel to songs like Black Sabbath, Paranoid, and Snowblind. While he was not a primary songwriter, his vocal melodies and performances became an integral part of the band’s identity. Alongside Iommi, Butler, and Ward, Ozzy helped shape the band’s signature sound, creating a blueprint for what would become heavy metal.

His time with Black Sabbath was turbulent, marked by legendary highs and dramatic departures. After being fired in 1979 due to substance abuse issues, Ozzy embarked on a massively successful solo career, becoming one of rock’s biggest icons. However, he reunited with Sabbath multiple times, including the Reunion live album in 1998 and 13 in 2013, which became their final studio release. While health concerns have slowed him down in recent years, a 2025 reunion could offer a historic moment where the Prince of Darkness once again takes his place at the front of Black Sabbath.

Dave Walker

Dave Walker briefly served as Black Sabbath’s lead vocalist between 1977 and 1978, stepping in after Ozzy Osbourne’s departure. Before joining Sabbath, he had fronted bands such as Fleetwood Mac and Savoy Brown, bringing a blues-influenced vocal style that contrasted with the band’s heavier sound. His addition marked an uncertain period for Sabbath as they attempted to move forward without their original frontman.

Although Walker rehearsed with the band and even performed an early version of Junior’s Eyes on BBC’s “Look Hear” program, he never recorded an official release with Black Sabbath. His tenure was short-lived, as Osbourne returned to the band later in 1978, leading to Walker’s departure before the band recorded Never Say Die! Despite not leaving a lasting impact on Sabbath’s discography, his brief time with the band remains a fascinating footnote in their history.

Ronnie James Dio

Ronnie James Dio joined Black Sabbath in 1979, stepping into the lead vocalist role following Ozzy Osbourne’s dismissal. His addition brought a dramatic shift in the band’s sound, as his operatic vocal style and fantasy-driven lyrics steered Sabbath toward a more epic, grandiose approach. The result was Heaven and Hell (1980), an album that rejuvenated the band’s career and introduced classics like Neon Knights and Die Young. Dio’s presence gave Sabbath a new identity, making them one of the defining bands of the early heavy metal movement.

Dio remained with the band through Mob Rules (1981) and Live Evil (1982) before leaving due to tensions with Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler. He returned in 1991 for Dehumanizer, which modernized Sabbath’s sound for a heavier, darker era. In the 2000s, Dio reunited with Iommi, Butler, and Vinny Appice under the name Heaven & Hell, releasing The Devil You Know (2009) before his passing in 2010. His legacy in Sabbath remains one of the most celebrated in the band’s history.

Geoff Nicholls

Geoff Nicholls was Black Sabbath’s longtime keyboardist, contributing to the band from 1979 to 2004. Initially hired to play bass during Geezer Butler’s brief departure, Nicholls transitioned to keyboards when Butler returned, becoming an essential but often unseen part of the band’s sound. His atmospheric keyboard work added depth to Sabbath’s music, particularly on albums like Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules, and Headless Cross.

While he rarely performed on stage with the band, his influence was present across numerous albums, providing orchestral textures and sonic layers that helped define their evolving sound. He remained with the band through multiple lineup changes before departing in 2004. Nicholls passed away in 2017, leaving behind a legacy as one of the most significant behind-the-scenes contributors to Black Sabbath.

Craig Gruber

Craig Gruber was briefly involved with Black Sabbath in 1979 during a transitional period when Geezer Butler had stepped away. Having previously played with Elf alongside Ronnie James Dio, Gruber was brought in for rehearsals as the band worked on material for what would become Heaven and Hell.

Although he played with the band during early writing sessions, Butler returned before the album was recorded, and Gruber did not appear on any official Black Sabbath releases. He later worked with bands like Rainbow and Gary Moore before passing away in 2015.

Vinny Appice

Vinny Appice became Black Sabbath’s drummer in 1980, replacing Bill Ward during the Heaven and Hell tour. His powerful, precise drumming fit seamlessly with the band’s heavier, more polished sound, and he contributed to Mob Rules (1981) and the live album Live Evil (1982). His work in Sabbath helped establish him as one of heavy metal’s premier drummers.

After Dio left Sabbath in 1982, Appice followed him to form the band Dio, where he played on multiple iconic albums. He returned to Black Sabbath in 1992 for Dehumanizer, once again anchoring the rhythm section. In the 2000s, he reunited with Iommi, Butler, and Dio under the Heaven & Hell name, performing with them until Dio’s passing in 2010.

Ian Gillan

Ian Gillan’s tenure as Black Sabbath’s vocalist from 1982 to 1984 remains one of the most unexpected chapters in the band’s history. Best known as the frontman of Deep Purple, Gillan joined Sabbath for Born Again (1983), an album that took a rawer, more aggressive approach. While his bluesy, wailing vocal style differed from his predecessors, he delivered energetic performances on tracks like Trashed and Disturbing the Priest.

Despite the album gaining a cult following, Gillan’s time with the band was short-lived. He left in 1984 to rejoin Deep Purple, making Born Again his only studio recording with Sabbath. His stint with the band remains a fascinating and divisive moment in their history.

Bev Bevan

Bev Bevan, best known as the drummer for Electric Light Orchestra, joined Black Sabbath in 1983, filling in for Bill Ward during the Born Again tour. His style was noticeably different from the band’s usual drummers, leaning more toward rock than heavy metal.

While he primarily served as a touring drummer, he contributed percussion to reissued bonus tracks of Born Again and played on two songs from The Eternal Idol (1987). His time in Sabbath was brief, and he returned to ELO after his tenure with the band.

Ron Keel

Ron Keel was briefly considered as Black Sabbath’s vocalist in 1984, during a period of instability within the band. Having fronted the band Steeler, Keel’s involvement with Sabbath was short-lived, as they ultimately chose Glenn Hughes as their new singer instead.

Keel went on to form his own band, Keel, which found success in the glam metal scene of the 1980s. His connection to Sabbath remains an interesting footnote in the band’s long and complex history.

David Donato

David Donato briefly joined Black Sabbath in 1984, rehearsing with the band and participating in a photo shoot, but he was dismissed before recording any material. His time with the band was fleeting, and he never appeared on an official release. Donato later distanced himself from the music industry and passed away in 2021.

Jeff Fenholt

Jeff Fenholt’s involvement with Black Sabbath has been a topic of debate. He claimed to have worked with Tony Iommi in 1985 on early versions of what would become Seventh Star, but Iommi later denied that Fenholt was ever an official member.

After his alleged time with Sabbath, Fenholt left the rock world and became a Christian evangelist. He passed away in 2019.

Eric Singer

Before gaining fame as the drummer for KISS, Eric Singer played with Black Sabbath from 1985 to 1987. His drumming was featured on Seventh Star (1986) and The Eternal Idol (1987), helping Sabbath transition into a more melodic, polished sound.

Gordon Copley

Gordon Copley briefly played bass for Black Sabbath in 1985, contributing to a single track, No Stranger to Love, on the Seventh Star album. At the time, Seventh Star was intended to be a solo album for Tony Iommi, but the record label insisted on branding it under the Black Sabbath name. Copley’s involvement was minimal, and he did not tour with the band or appear on any other recordings.

Outside of his brief tenure with Sabbath, Copley built a career as a respected session musician, contributing to various rock and pop projects. His time with the band remains a small but notable part of the Seventh Star sessions, marking a transitionary period in Sabbath’s history.

Dave Spitz

Dave Spitz joined Black Sabbath in 1985 and remained with the band through 1987, playing bass on Seventh Star. His style brought a solid, hard-hitting foundation to Sabbath’s evolving sound, fitting well with the more melodic direction the band was exploring at the time. Spitz was part of the touring lineup for Seventh Star, performing alongside Tony Iommi and Glenn Hughes.

After leaving Sabbath, Spitz continued working with various rock and metal acts, including Great White and White Lion. Although he wasn’t part of Sabbath’s classic years, his contributions during this era helped stabilize the band as they experimented with new directions.

Glenn Hughes

Glenn Hughes became Black Sabbath’s lead vocalist in 1985, marking another major shift in the band’s identity. Best known for his work with Deep Purple and Trapeze, Hughes was an unconventional choice for Sabbath, bringing a more soulful and bluesy vocal style to Seventh Star. His powerful voice gave the album a distinct sound, but his tenure with the band was short-lived.

Hughes’ time in Sabbath was troubled, as he struggled with substance abuse during the Seventh Star tour. He was ultimately replaced by Ray Gillen after only a handful of shows. Despite this, Hughes recovered and went on to have a successful solo career, later forming Black Country Communion and continuing to perform as one of rock’s most revered vocalists.

Ray Gillen

Ray Gillen joined Black Sabbath in 1986, replacing Glenn Hughes on vocals after the Seventh Star tour began. Though he never recorded a full studio album with the band, he played a significant role in Sabbath’s live performances during this time. Gillen’s voice was powerful and versatile, making him a strong fit for both the new material and classic Sabbath songs.

He worked with the band on early demos for The Eternal Idol, but before the album was completed, he left to form the band Badlands. Some of his recordings surfaced as bonus tracks on later reissues of The Eternal Idol and Seventh Star. Gillen passed away in 1993, but his brief time with Sabbath remains an interesting chapter in the band’s ever-changing history.

Tony Martin

Tony Martin joined Black Sabbath in 1987 and became the band’s longest-tenured vocalist after Ozzy Osbourne. His debut album, The Eternal Idol, showcased his impressive vocal range and ability to adapt to Sabbath’s evolving sound. Over the next decade, he would record five studio albums with the band, including Headless Cross and Tyr, both of which became fan favorites among those who followed Sabbath’s post-Dio years.

Martin’s era was marked by a more melodic and gothic approach to metal, with his voice lending a dramatic, operatic feel to the music. Although his contributions are often overshadowed by Sabbath’s more famous lineups, he remained a key figure in the band’s later years. He was dismissed in 1991 to make way for the Dio-fronted Dehumanizer, but returned in 1993 for Cross Purposes and stayed until 1997.

Cozy Powell

Cozy Powell became Black Sabbath’s drummer in 1988, bringing his legendary hard-hitting style to the band. A veteran of Rainbow, Whitesnake, and Jeff Beck’s band, Powell’s drumming on Headless Cross and Tyr gave Sabbath a renewed sense of power and precision. His contributions were crucial in shaping the more theatrical and epic sound of this era.

Powell left the band in 1991 but returned in 1994 to record Forbidden. Sadly, he passed away in 1998, but his time in Sabbath remains one of the highlights of his storied career. His influence on the band’s late ‘80s and early ‘90s sound cannot be overstated.

Neil Murray

Neil Murray joined Black Sabbath in 1988 as the band’s bassist, appearing on Tyr and later rejoining in 1994 for Forbidden. His extensive background in rock and metal, including his work with Whitesnake and Gary Moore, made him a strong addition to the band’s rhythm section. His bass work provided a solid foundation for the more melodic and dramatic sound of the Tony Martin era.

Murray’s time with Sabbath may not have been as high-profile as the Geezer Butler years, but he remained an essential part of the band’s late-period lineup, contributing to their touring and recording efforts. He left in 1997 as Sabbath transitioned back toward their original lineup.

Bobby Rondinelli

Bobby Rondinelli took over drumming duties for Black Sabbath in 1993, replacing Cozy Powell. His first major contribution was on Cross Purposes, where his hard-hitting, technical style gave the album a sharper, more aggressive feel. He also played on Cross Purposes Live, showcasing his ability to handle both the new material and classic Sabbath songs.

Rondinelli stayed with the band until 1997 before moving on to other projects, including working with Blue Öyster Cult and Rainbow. His time in Sabbath was relatively brief but played an important role in keeping the band’s momentum going in the mid-1990s.

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“It’s timeless. It was always in its own world; it didn’t fit into any category.” Tangerine Dream and the story of Phaedra

Tangerine Dream
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Fifty years ago, electronic music got a new beat when Tangerine Dream released Phaedra. The pioneering German group’s fifth studio album saw the Berliners relocate to the English countryside, and its motorik grooves played a key role in what was being defined as krautrock. In early 2024, to celebrate the album’s 50th anniversary, Prog told the story behind one of the greatest experimental electronic albums of all time, its legacy and the synthesiser that informed its sound.


November 1973. Frayed bell-bottoms were the height of fashion; Pink Floyd culminated their Dark Side Of The Moon tour and the Mariner 10 spacecraft blasted off on a mission to send back the first-ever photos of Mercury to an eagerly awaiting Earth. Meanwhile, in the little Oxfordshire village of Shipton-on-Cherwell, three visionary musicians armed with cutting-edge technology were about to alter the musical landscape forever. Edgar Froese, Peter Baumann and Christopher Franke – otherwise known as Tangerine Dream – flew from Berlin in Germany to Richard Branson’s The Manor to record an album that would change their lives and that of the many people who would hear it. It was a record that was to achieve great things, blowing minds with its sheer invention and inspiring decades of electronic music.

For Branson, it was a propitious time. Virgin Records was in the second year of its existence and riding high on the phenomenal success of Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells. The label’s mail order service was in full swing, providing fans in England with advance access to the cream of American imports. Never one to rest on his laurels, the entrepreneur had travelled in person to Germany to recruit his latest act.

By the time they signed to Virgin, Tangerine Dream had already released four albums via German experimental label Ohr. They’d also undergone multiple changes in personnel, with founding member Edgar Froese the only constant. For their previous two long-players, however, Zeit (1972) and Atem (1973), they’d settled on what is now considered their classic line-up.

Phaedra

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Froese was the group’s creative powerhouse and polymath; an instinctive musician who’d also studied painting and sculpture at the Berlin Academy of Arts. On tour in Spain with his first band, The Ones, Froese had performed a special concert for the surrealist painter Salvador Dalí. It was a meeting that infused him with a passion for experimentation. Returning to Germany, he formed Tangerine Dream in 1967 with a long-since forgotten line-up of Lanse Hapshash (drums), Kurt Herkenberg (bass), Volker Hombach (sax, violin, flute) and Charlie Prince on vocals. By the time Christopher Franke joined in 1971, after a stint as drummer for The Agitation – later renamed Agitation Free – Steve Jolliffe, Klaus Schulze and Conrad Schnitzler had all passed through the band’s ranks.

Peter Baumann also came on board that year, at the crucial point when the band were shifting from guitars to electronics. For Baumann, a career in music was never planned.

“Oh, no, not at all,” he admits. “Everything that happens in my life is an accident. And it was a very simple story: I had a buddy in school, and we were just chatting. He said, ‘I’m playing in a band, why don’t you come along and listen?’ So I went. They had a bass player, guitar player, vocalist and drummer, but no keyboard. So I said, ‘Why don’t I go on keyboards and join you?’ And that was it.”

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Primarily a covers band, this was a good experience for Baumann, but not fulfilling. It was another accident of fate, a chance meeting, that
initially led to his involvement with Tangerine Dream.

“I was at a concert – Emerson, Lake & Palmer,” he recalls. “They started late, so I began to talk to the folks behind me. There was a guy with long, dark hair named Christopher. We were chatting about what we were doing. He said he played in a band. I said, ‘I do some experiments with music as well.’”

Bonding over a shared love of instrumental records, the two exchanged details and, a week later, Baumann received a note from Franke urging him to get in touch as they were looking for a new keyboard player.

“So I called up,” recalls Baumann, “and about a week later, they invited me to bring my keyboard and meet them at a rehearsal room. The rest is history.”

Over their following two albums, Zeit and Atem, Tangerine Dream set about exploring new sounds.

“The music was evolving, intuitively,” says Baumann. “You’re always trying new things and you say, ‘Hey, that seems to work’, but we never really discussed the music much. It was more like: have a good joint and then start playing.”

Tangerine Dream

(Image credit: Eastgate Music And Arts Archive Berline/Monique Froese)

With Phaedra, however, that changed.

“The major difference was that it was the first record where we had
a Moog synthesiser,” remembers Baumann. “That was very unique at the time, and it really set the flavour for the main piece.”

The synthesiser in question came to the group via an unusual path. Sometime in 1969, The Rolling Stones had purchased a complete modular system from Moog, one of the very first commercially available. The Stones’ experiments with the nascent technology ultimately led nowhere. Dissatisfied, they sold their equipment to the Hansa Studio in Berlin, an establishment that would later become famous through its use by David Bowie, Iggy Pop and others. Back in 1973, Hansa accepted an offer for the Stones’ old Moog from Tangerine Dream’s Christopher Franke. A bargain at only $15,000 – an equivalent of about £90,000 in today’s money.

Franke paid for the Moog using the band’s advance from Virgin. Baumann recalls how the group’s contract with Branson’s company came about.

“He [Branson] was looking for bands. And I think it was Simon Draper [Virgin Records co-founder] who told him there were a few bands in Germany – Faust, Can and Tangerine Dream – that he should check out. So he came to Berlin. We got along famously, and he made us an offer.”

Fast-forward to November, 1973 when the group decamped to Oxfordshire and set up home in The Manor.

“We recorded pretty well in Germany,” says Baumann, “but The Manor studio was a whole different ball game. We had a really nice
16-track machine and really good outboard gear. It was a beautiful facility. For three weeks we got in there and recorded Phaedra.”

It was a record that grew organically.

“We never had any clear idea of what we were going to do,” stresses Baumann. “There was one commonality – that is we would start very, very simply and see what happened. Even in live concerts we started from one note and then developed from that one note. That was the only thing that we ever discussed.”

Tangerine Dream’s influences at the time came largely from fellow
sonic experimenters.

“We listened to a lot of instrumental music,” recalls Baumann. “Stockhausen and Ligeti – a lot of classical composers who did very experimental things.”

Born in 1928, German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen was an early innovator in electronic music. Nearly 20 years before Phaedra was realised, his pioneering Gesang Der Jünglinge had mixed human voices with electronically generated pulses, tones and white noise. Around the same time, Transylvania-born György Ligeti had begun utilising micropolyphony – dense lines of sound moving at varying tempos and rhythms.

“From the popular bands,” says Baumann, “we listened to Pink Floyd’s Ummagumma and then The Dark Side Of The Moon. The instrumental sections – they were our favourites.”

Tangerine Dream

(Image credit: Eastgate Music And Arts Archive Berline/Monique Froese)

The genius of Froese, Baumann and Franke, based largely on instinct, lay in combining these disparate elements into a wholly original model. Even during recording, they had no idea how Phaedra would sound in its final form.

“We recorded quite a bit,” explains Baumann, “and a lot of it was junk that we threw out. But obviously [the title track] worked very well, and so we refined it a little bit in the studio. It’s not a live situation, so in the studio we could do some overdubs.”

It was a process of going back and forth between the three.

“We never discussed the music; we’d just say, ‘I like it’, or ‘I don’t like that.’ So, you know, it was a collaboration on many different levels, and it was extremely intuitive. There was, especially with Phaedra, never any fighting or disagreements or anything like that. It was really a very instinctual and homogeneous collaboration.”

According to Baumann, the novel environment they found themselves recording in helped to shape the music.

“In hindsight, it was a much better atmosphere. We enjoyed being in the country; The Manor was a great facility and we loved being there. And we’d never before worked three weeks in a row. Although I was, at the time, 19 or 20 years old. I wasn’t paying much attention to the bigger picture.”

Even when things were going well, the band had no sense that the Phaedra project would amount to their largest success to date.

“We just knew that we liked it,” says Baumann. “I mean, there was really no comparison. It was so unique. Nobody else was doing anything like that. We just enjoyed it. And we thought it was cool. Very cool.”

The lengthy sessions were not without their challenges. Speaking in an interview for Mark Prendergast’s comprehensive study of electronic music, The Ambient Century (2000), Edgar Froese confirmed:

“Technically, everything that could go wrong did go wrong. The tape machine broke down, there were repeated mixing console failures, and the speakers were damaged because of the unusually low frequencies of the bass notes.”

Frequent power cuts added to the band’s woes. A miners’ strike was in full swing and commercial users of electricity were prohibited at certain times. To further complicate matters, incessant rain found its way in through the roof of the old building, leading to a mass scramble to protect precious instruments and equipment by binding it in plastic sheeting. A particular low point occurred when Froese witnessed the Manor’s resident Irish wolfhound amble in, raise its leg, and urinate against the band’s Mellotron.

Despite these travails, staff at The Manor did their best to maintain a good atmosphere, and gradually Phaedra took shape. The band worked long days, beginning mid-morning and toiling on into the small hours. With no presets or writeable memory, setting up the Moog alone proved to be time-intensive. The results, though, were worth it. The synthesiser’s driving arpeggiated bass line provided a stunning bedrock for the group to build on, using Mellotron, guitars and electric piano to construct a hypnotic, layered soundscape. A quirk of the new equipment was its extreme sensitivity to heat: when the Moog warmed up, it also went out of tune. The trio used this to their advantage, letting the Moog have its way and incorporating the results into the title track.

Tangerine Dream

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The finished album was released in the UK on the February, 20 1974 and, to the average listener, Phaedra must have sounded like a broadcast from an alien planet. The title track alone proved a revelation. Occupying the entirety of side one, Phaedra itself builds from an uneasy synth bubbling, gradually coalescing into a hypnotic, polyrhythmic entity, shifting like a kaleidoscope through multicoloured clouds of Mellotron tones. The three tracks comprising side two, Mysterious Semblence At The Strand Of Nightmares, Movements Of A Visionary and Sequent ‘C’ form something of space rock symphony, taking the listener on a beguiling journey to strange, distant galaxies. Phaedra provided music that seeped into the soul. Nothing quite like it had invaded the UK’s airwaves and bedrooms before.

Not surprisingly, some responses from critics were openly hostile, including an infamous diatribe from Melody Maker’s Steve Lake, who described the record as “gutless and spineless, devoid of inspiration” Despite such vitriol and spurred on by exposure from far-sighted radio DJs such as John Peel, Phaedra gradually grew into something of a phenomenon. In a wonderful bit of poetic justice, it broke Melody Maker’s own Top 10. Baumann was as surprised as anyone by the record’s success.

“It was very funny – a week or two after it came out, I was in Italy with
a girlfriend and I got a telegram from Richard [Branson] saying, ‘You have to come to London, your record is in the Top 10.’ I thought, what is he talking about? I had no idea, so I called him, and he said, ‘No, no, Peter, it’s in the Melody Maker Top 10.’ And so I went to London to do a ton of interviews.”

It was an astonishing feat for such a radical record.

“We were a totally experimental band,” says Baumann. “We weren’t rock, we weren’t pop, and we played for relatively small audiences in Germany. We didn’t even sell a lot of records in Germany. Atem and Zeit sold maybe a couple of thousands, maybe 10,000 – we never sold much in the beginning. So, I had no expectations. I was totally surprised and, you know, it was a life-changing event.”

Phaedra hit No.15 on the UK album chart, proving the critics wrong and opening the floodgates to a surge of interest in the new music coming from across the English Channel. Kraftwerk’s Autobahn, released in the UK a few months later, reached No.4 on the UK album charts and listeners soon sought out ambitious sounds from other radical German groups such as Faust, Can and Amon Düül II.

Phaedra’s success propelled Tangerine Dream to a new level of celebrity.

“I think we took it pretty much in our stride,” reflects Baumann. “The first time it hit me was when we did a couple of concerts after the album got successful: the first was in London [at Victoria Palace Theatre on June 16, 1974]. There were thousands of people there and that was kind of stunning. It just hit me: oh my God, there are actually people liking it!”

It was the first time that the band encountered their UK fans face to face. They knew that Phaedra was selling well, but experiencing the adoration close up was a shock.

“In a live setting,” says Baumann, “it’s really a completely different ball game. And it really hits you that thousands of people are spending their time and money to come to hear you. That was unique.”

For him, the album was a personal turning point, one where he began to understand that a long-time career in music was possible.

“I didn’t plan anything,” he muses. “I just did what I enjoyed doing and they [Froese and Franke] seemed like a couple of cool people to travel with, hang out with, and make music with. And, you know, there was no way that I could have planned making a living off of it.”

After Phaedra, though, music became a full-time job.

“You settle in,” says Baumann, “and then you do the next record, and you do a tour here and a tour there. Then we went to America and did tons of interviews. It became a lifestyle.”

The three young musicians adapted well, their natural level-headedness a solid anchor against the strains and excesses of the business.

“It wasn’t that difficult,” Baumann recalls. “You know, Tangerine Dream was not about personalities. None of us was a star or a special person. It was always the music that was front and centre. We had some groupies and stuff, but it was never as wild and crazy as with some of the rock bands.”

Tangerine Dream

(Image credit: Virgin Archive)

Phaedra sits proud among the many fine entries in Tangerine Dream’s extensive discography, and its influence has never dimmed.

“I think one of the reasons,” says Baumann, “is that it was one of the first electronic records and it became kind of a landmark for a lot of other folks. The difference with Phaedra is that it’s more like an interior experience rather than an exterior experience, where people jump up and down, screaming, at a rock concert. It has a very different atmosphere that lends itself very well for people to listen at home with headphones.”

It’s an album tied to the uniqueness of the time of its genesis. The newness of the technology and the set-up of the music business created perfect conditions for such an album to seep into the public consciousness.

“Yeah, it’s a very different ball game now,” Baumann reflects, “and also the distribution is very different. Everything is much more fast-paced. If you would release a record like Phaedra today, it would not be noticed, or very little.”

The ubiquitous access to music, he argues, has to some extent lessened its special aura.

“Back then there were no computers and music was a much more important part of people’s lives than today.”

In the 1970s, especially in Germany, experimentation within popular music was rife. Bands were moving away from the ubiquitous three-minute verse-chorus song with a traditional drums, guitar and bass set-up towards a more inward-looking sound.

“I think it’s the German mentality, you know,” Baumann reflects. “Over the years there have been very, very few real rock bands, you know. They had their pop music, but testosterone-driven rock music, that just was not a German thing. You had the Scorpions at the time, and maybe one or two other bands, but I think Germans, they live more in their heads than in their guts.”

Phaedra is a landmark of such cerebral, transformative music and, half a century on, it continues to resonate. And Baumann continues to be surprised by its enduring popularity.

“Here we are 50 years later doing an interview. And yeah, I didn’t think that it would last that long,” he admits.

As with any long-lived band, Tangerine Dream have drifted in and out of prime focus but have never ceased to be relevant.

“There are phases when it’s more noticeable,” he agrees, “and then less – it goes through waves.”

For Baumann, it’s been a long journey with plenty of high points. “Playing the Royal Albert Hall [in April 1975] was obviously something you don’t forget,” he says. “Also Reims Cathedral [France, 1974] and New York City [on several occasions].”

Of playing live, he admits, “It’s like sex. Sometimes it’s the best thing in the world. And sometimes it’s just something that you have to do. But it’s always better doing it than not!”

And was Phaedra the album that started it all?

“I don’t listen to it very often,” he confesses, “but when I do, you know, it’s really timeless. It was always in its own world; it didn’t fit into any category.”

Legions of fans would surely rush to agree.

Chris Wheatley is an author and writer based in Oxford, UK. You can find his writing in Prog magazine, Vintage Rock, Longreads, What Culture, Songlines, Loudwire, London Jazz News and many other websites and publications. He has too many records, too many guitars, and not enough cats.

Kansas Is Featured in the New Season of ‘Reacher’

Carry on Wayward Son” has been a cornerstone of the Kansas catalog for decades. But it has also found an interesting place in pop culture, including being used as featured music leading up to the newest season of Amazon Prime’s crime thriller Reacher, which premiered this week (Feb. 20).

The ties between Kansas and the program go back to the first season, when chief detective Oscar Finlay pulled out a CD from his collection, while traveling as a passenger with series namesake, Jack Reacher. “Best opening of any rock song ever,” Finlay comments as the famous a capella vocal introduction begins to play through the car stereo. “What are you doing?” Reacher asks Finlay, who air drums as the song continues to build. “I gotta say, my guys don’t get their due. They can rock out,” he replies.

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The a capella vocal intro came about very naturally, Kansas guitarist and co-founder Rich Williams shares in an upcoming interview on the UCR Podcast. “I don’t know whose idea it was, but it was a unanimous decision as we were doing the vocal tracks, ‘This needs to be at the beginning. It just make perfect sense,'” he remembers, adding that they quickly recognized they had something special on their hands. “Listening to the whole album, that’s when it really hit us. ‘This is a game changer, this record.’ It was obvious that ‘Carry on Wayward Son’ was going to be a hit. We were really happy with it. We knew that finally, after three albums, our fourth album, this could make a big difference.”

The Birth of ‘Carry on Wayward Son’

The sessions for Leftoverture, the group’s fourth album, had begun with the band facing a bit of a crisis — they didn’t have songs ready to go because of their constant road work and vocalist Steve Walsh was also dealing with writer’s block. The album got its title from the sprawling epic “Magnum Opus,” which had the working name of “Leftoverture.” It earned that tag, having been assembled from pieces of music the group had come up with at soundchecks as well as some leftover bits from their previous album, Masque.

Guitarist Kerry Livgren ultimately penned five of the eight songs on Leftoverture — with “Carry on Wayward Son” being a last-minute arrival.”We were in rehearsals in Topeka and finishing up working on the material which was going to be on what was to become Leftoverture,” Williams details. “The last song to come in was ‘Wayward Son,’ on the last day. We didn’t really have much of it. We didn’t run through it and it wasn’t arranged in the form that it is now, verse, chorus, etc. It wasn’t until we got into the recording process [that we finally finished it].”

“It was kind of an assembly line. You’re working on getting bass and drum tracks and you go through all of the material,” he continues. “Then, you have keyboard days, guitar days and vocal days, working from song to song. At the end of cutting the basic tracks, we needed to get on with that new song, because we’d finished everything else. That’s when we arranged it, learned it and started rolling tape. Really, that version is probably the first time we played it correctly.”

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Reacher is just the latest moment in the spotlight for “Carry on Wayward Son,” which was famously featured previously throughout 15 seasons of the drama Supernatural between 2005 and 2019. The band also performed the song in a scene from the contemporary western crime drama, Walker. The AEW wrestling team, the Elite, used it as their entrance music in recent years — and you can even discover what it might sound like if South Park’s Cartman handled the vocals, thanks to Instagram.

“It’s becoming normalized,” Williams says. “I’ll get a call from Phil, ‘What do you think about it being in this next show?’ It’s like, how many shows is this going to be in? It’s used so frequently! I learned a few months ago that it was going to be part of the season 3 preview for Reacher, but I didn’t watch it. I waited until me and my wife finally finished watching the first two seasons. Then, I watched the trailer and they did such a great job with the way they used it. I’m amazed that a song that is over 40 years old is still so relevant.”

The band finished off their long-running 50th anniversary tour at the end of 2024. Though current vocalist Ronnie Platt recently shared that he’s battling thyroid cancer, he’s keeping a positive outlook and the group is looking forward to getting back on the road. Kansas has concerts scheduled throughout 2025 including a run of summer co-headlining dates with 38 Special.

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“I could have said a few words if Rick Wakeman would have shut up”: Bill Bruford on the “civil war” at the heart of Yes’s tumultuous induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame

“I could have said a few words if Rick Wakeman would have shut up”: Bill Bruford on the “civil war” at the heart of Yes’s tumultuous induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame

Yes members backstage at the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction ceremony
Yes members past and present backstage at the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction ceremony. L-R Steve Howe, Alan White, Bill Bruford, Rick Wakeman, Jon Anderson, Trevor Rabin (Image credit: Angela Weiss/AFP via Getty Images)

Former Yes and King Crimson drummer Bill Bruford has spoken about the discontent that marked the former’s induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame in 2017.

In a new interview with Rolling Stone, Bruford is asked about his memories of the day, when the two incarnations of Yes in existence at the time – the Yes led by Steve Howe and Alan White, and Yes Featuring Jon Anderson, Trevor Rabin and Rick Wakeman – sat at adjacent tables but ignored each other.

“There was always a civil war happening, and that’s part of the reason you don’t want to spend too much time in these bands,” says Bruford. “Because there’s always something like that going on. I don’t recall much about it other than I just said, ‘Well, Alan can play the drums on this. I don’t want to play drums on this thing.’ But I was happy to attend and lend whatever enthusiasm I could to the event.

“But I think that Jon and Steve were getting on very badly. And to this day, it’s a very odd relationship between Jon and Steve. I don’t know what happened, but something happened. But as I say, I’m an outsider now.”

Bruford, who took to the stage when the band were inducted but didn’t perform with them onstage, is also asked why he didn’t make a speech during the ceremony.

“I could have said a few words if Rick Wakeman would have shut up,” says Bruford. “He gets the ball rolling and about 20 minutes later, people are saying, ‘Wind it up.’

“I felt actually really bad for Scotland Squire [widow of Chris Squire, late Yes bassist], who had her little daughter. I think Scotland wanted to say something on behalf of Chris and she would’ve gone before me and I think she was ready to do something. So I felt bad as Rick went on, but hey, that’s rock and roll for you.”

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In the ceremony’s aftermath, Scotland Squire posted on the YesFans forum to say that she didn’t blame Wakeman for denying her the opportunity to speak.

“I had a very nice speech prepared to honour Chris, and Xilan [their daughter] and I wanted on Chris’ behalf to thank everyone, especially the fans (but mainly Xi and I wanted to honour Chris for the great musician he was.)

“I am not here to blame anyone for why we didn’t get to speak, but there are time constraints with these shows and the whole time Rick was talking there was a monitor flashing ‘wrap it up’.

“Also, for the record, I didn’t refuse to go up and talk. After Rick was done he handed me the award but everyone was just being ushered off stage. The whole thing was awkward.

“I know Rick’s heart and he didn’t do anything to diss me, Xilan or Chris. I think it was just not planned very well. I really should have gone and spoken before Rick… but how do you follow that act anyway? This is all written with love in my heart.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Bruford reveals that he’s never listened to Tales From Topographic Oceans, the album Yes made after he left the band in 1973, and expresses surprise when told that the double album features just four songs.

“Wow,” says Bruford. “That’s too much for me, probably.”

In 2017, Prog magazine spoke to the other Yes members about their tumultuous Hall Of Fame induction.

The super deluxe edition of Yes’s Close To The Edge is released on March 7. Bill Bruford’s current band, the Pete Roth Trio, play at The Verdict in Brighton this Friday and have UK and European dates lined up over the next few months.

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“He would have been perfect! Maybe it’s not too late!”: Ozzy was once asked to audition for Pirates Of The Caribbean but Sharon wouldn’t let him

Sharon Osbourne has revealed that she once turned down an opportunity for Ozzy Osbourne to audition for a role in the hugely successful Pirates Of The Caribbean franchise.

On the latest episode of Billy Corgan’s new podcast The Magnificent Others, in which the Smashing Pumpkins frontman “engages in profound conversations with extraordinary individuals who have reached the pinnacle of success in their respective field”, Osbourne tells Corgan about what she calls her “biggest mistake.”

“He got offered to go and read for Pirates Of The Caribbean, and I’ve never said this to anyone, and I said no,” Osbourne reveals. “Now wouldn’t he have been perfect?”

“He would have been perfect!” responds Corgan. “Maybe it’s not too late, but God bless.”

In other news, Corgan has revealed that he plans to perform with Adam Jones from Tool and Tom Morello at this summer’s Black Sabbath reunion show Back To The Beginning in Birmingham, UK.

“Adam, Tom and I all grew up in the same sort of general vicinity. Tom had this idea – what he calls ‘The Illinois Boys’ – that The Illinois Boys would get together and play, so that’s cool,” Corgan tells NME. “I love it. I’m very fond and love Adam’s music and playing and I’ve known Tom for 30 years or so, so it’s a cool thing.”

Back To The Beginning will be the first time Black Sabbath’s founding lineup have played together since appearing at the UK Music Hall Of Fame in 2005. It is set to be the band’s final show, as well as the last time Osbourne performs onstage. The Prince Of Darkness retired from touring in 2023.

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