“Want to scare people these days? Forget about Satan and drugs. Bring on the evolutionary biologist”: Nightwish were accused of seeking to shock by working with Richard Dawkins. Instead they explored the poetry of science

Nightwish’s eighth studio album Endless Forms Most Beautiful featured the voice and writings of evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins. The remarkable teaming up of a progressive thinker with a progressive musical force explored the concept that poetry exists within science. Ahead of the 2015 release, band leader Tuomas Holopainen and Professor Dawkins discussed their collaboration with Prog.


There’s something almost incongruous about seeing a major musical figure in awe of another person – but Nightwish mainman Tuomas Holopainen clearly feels a little intimidated being in the same room as evolutionary biologist Professor Richard Dawkins. “He’s a hero of mine,” Holopainen later admits, after the subject of his praise has left the building. “I studied biology for six months at university. But then Nightwish’s debut album [Angels Fall First, 1996] was released and that took over my life.”

He never lost his fascination for science, which eventually led him to read Dawkins’ books. “Troy Donockley from the band introduced me to your work,” Holopainen earlier told the biologist. “The first one I read was The Ancestor’s Tale, and now I’ve read everything except your autobiography [An Appetite For Wonder].”

It was this path that led to the unlikely collaboration between the renowned scientist and the Finnish band on the latter’s new album Endless Forms Most Beautiful. “I’m intrigued by evolution, the natural world and the cosmos,” says Holopainen. “I had the idea of doing a massive song about the evolution of life. I called it The Greatest Show On Earth – which is the title of one of his books. So it appeared to be a perfect match. “I sent a handwritten letter – because I thought it was more likely to be read – asking him if he’d guest on the album. Two weeks later I got an email back.”

“I long ago forgot how to write!” laughs Dawkins. “I will admit I had never heard of Nightwish before I got this request. But my assistant had, and said they were very good, so I agreed to be involved.”

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Last October, Dawkins met Holopainen for the first time, at a studio in Oxford where his narrative parts were recorded. “It was only for an hour, but in that time we got about 30 passages recorded,” says Holopainen.

“Some of these were from my own writings,” adds Dawkins. “Others from Carl Sagan, Walt Whitman, Charles Darwin and also from Tuomas.”

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“I then selected what I thought worked best with the music,” confirms Holopainen. “But the rest won’t be discarded. Some will be incorporated into the live show.”

By his own admission, Dawkins isn’t exactly in tune with the world of progressive music – he’s a fan of classical works. “People are often surprised that I can love the music of Haydn, Bach and Handl when so much of it was steeped in the church and I am an atheist. However, you have to appreciate that at the time they were composing, it was the church who had the money to commission music, and composers inevitably went where the money was. Otherwise, it might have been so different. We could have been celebrating Haydn’s Origins Of Life Oratorio, Bach’s Evolution Cantata or Beethoven’s Mesozoic Symphony.”

I’ve never done anything to cause shock. This is science. It’s not being done to annoy religion

Richard Dawkins

The parties hope their collaboration will prove to be symbiotic, and lead to a greater understanding of the poetry of science. As Dawkins insists: “Science should be an inspiration to musicians – it’s a positive thing. I’ve always emphasised the importance of the poetic approach to science. I’ve never been a fan of the hands-on approach, where you have to experiment and use a Bunsen burner. For me, that misses the point. What we should be celebrating is the poetry within reality.”

“I would love to believe Nightwish fans will be inspired by this album to read some of Dawkins’ books,” Holopainen says. “Science was always the catalyst here. Praising the natural world, making science more approachable; more poetic.”

“The reverse might also be possible,” says Dawkins. “There could be those who’ve read some of my books who’ll now listen to this album. I’d say it’s a healthy relationship between science and music.”

When Dawkins recorded his narration, he did so without having heard a note of the music. It was something Holopainen enforced. “I wanted him to come to it fresh. No preconceptions. The music was already set in stone, but I’m a fan both of his voice and what he says. I didn’t want anything tailored to suit what was already there – and because of this, the performance is more powerful.”

He furiously debunks the suggestion that Dawkins’ presence is purely to stir up controversy. “There have been people on Facebook who’ve suggested the only reason he’s here is for shock value, and to piss off religious people.”

“I’ve never done anything to cause shock,” interjects Dawkins. “This is science. It’s not being done to annoy religion.”

Holopainen: “The thing is, if you want to scare people these days, forget about Satan and drugs. Bring on the evolutionary biologist. What he has to say really scares some people!”

When I give lectures I’m capturing the spirit of the moment. Isn’t that what being progressive is all about?

Richard Dawkins

The collaboration will go further now, with Dawkins expected to guest at Nightwish’s Wembley Arena show in December. It will be new territory for him. “I did play the electronic wind instrument [EWI] live once at the Cannes Film Festival,” he says. ”It was part of a psychedelic presentation by Saatchi & Saatchi. I learned to play the clarinet when I was young, so it was no problem.

“And I enjoy giving lectures, especially when you’re in a large theatre and you have a very good sound system. It can almost feel like you have the audience eating out of your hand. But this progressive music world… that’s all new to me.”

So which prog artists does Holopainen think Dawkins should check out? “Well, I know he likes Vangelis, as I do.” He turns to the scientist. ”And I guess maybe you should start with Pink Floyd. I don’t think it would be wise to recommend anything too heavy!”

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“My wife goes to a lot of concerts of this type,” Dawkins says, “but I’ve never gone with her. Maybe I should start to venture in. When I give lectures I like to think out loud, rather than follow scripts. Anybody can read your notes – but if you’re spontaneous and grasp the thought as it comes to you, you’re capturing the spirit of the moment. Isn’t that what being progressive is all about?”

Now that this unlikely pairing has proved itself mutually respectful, is it possible there will a further collaboration on a future project? Maybe working together from the start? “I haven’t thought about that,” shrugs Holopainen, “but I wouldn’t rule it out.”

“I’ve never written serious lyrics before,” says Dawkins. “I have come up with nonsense verses, but that’s very different. I feel a lot of what I write is prose poetry. And that’s the artistic expression I feel most confident in doing.”

After Dawkins leaves, Holopainen notices that the biologist had been doodling on a piece of paper. He eagerly snatches it up. “I’m keeping this,” he exclaims excitedly. “Yes – I’m a fanboy!”

“You can only be what the public thinks you are for so long before it becomes boring”: The story of how Metallica got themselves an orchestra – and the album that followed

“You can only be what the public thinks you are for so long before it becomes boring”: The story of how Metallica got themselves an orchestra – and the album that followed

Metallica in 1999
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For Metallica, the 90s were just like the 80s – only in reverse. The 10 years it took them to go from unloved New Wave Of British Heavy Metal copyists, when they formed in LA in 1981, to globe-straddling multi-platinum-selling rock titans on a sales par with Michael Jackson and U2, with the release of their fifth album, Metallica, aka the Black Album, in 1991, saw them evolve faster than a speeding bullet.

The move from hair-metal LA to anything-goes San Francisco, occasioned by bringing in SF natives, bassist Cliff Burton and guitarist Kirk Hammett; the sparking of a whole new genre in rock – thrash metal – and in its wake close-but-no-cigar imitators such as Megadeth and Slayer; the ability to fit comfortably onto the front covers Kerrang!, NME, The Village Voice, Rolling Stone and The Times of London, New York and LA; the death of Burton and the resulting exultation of a band afforded legend status before they’d even made a video; the conquering of first Britain then Europe then America then the rest of mankind.

They achieved all that between 1981 and 1991. Surely the next 10 years would follow a similarly skywards trajectory. All Metallica seemingly had to do was keep their eyes on the prize. Instead, they appeared to wilfully steer the great metal bird Metallica headlong into the ground, as they spent the 90s veering from one ‘controversial’ decision to another.

First they cut their long hair short, applied garish make-up, and lost more than half their global audience with release of the provocative post-Black Album Load (1996) and, more contentiously still, Reload (’97). Had Metallica gone grunge? Had Metallica sold out? Didn’t Metallica care about their metal-loving fans any more? What were Metallica thinking?

The answer to all those questions was: no. Metallica hadn’t changed their thinking at all. If anything they were staying true to their nature, pushing boundaries, riding their lightning back out to the edge again; exploring those places – musical, cultural – no other metal band would have considered. It was their defining characteristic: a gift and a curse that made Metallica both the only ‘thrash band’ to successfully transcend their origins – and singled them out for special punishment when these experiments exploded in their faces.

Metallica in 1999

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By 1998, when Metallica were now giving serious consideration to recording a rock-meets-classical album with a symphony orchestra, it felt almost as though they were on a kamikaze mission to kill or at least badly maim their career. Couldn’t they just make another one like the Black Album or, even better, Master Of Puppets? Another entirely thrash-based album the way Slayer and Megadeth and all the other comet-trailers did?

Actually, no they couldn’t. The boy for whom nothing was ever quite enough, drummer Lars Ulrich, wouldn’t let them. Instead, the 90s became the beginning of what singer/guitarist James Hetfield later described with more than a hint of sarcasm as “the great reinvention of Metallica”.

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“It’s not like we all went out together for a group haircut,” said Lars, when I teased him about it. But in many ways that’s exactly what they did do. It was one thing seeing Kirk Hammett showing off his new body tattoos and face piercings; essential oil dabbing, comic-book collecting, dope-smoking Kirk had always leaned that way. Looking at James Hetfield, though, once the poster boy for shit-kicking no-fucking-around heavy dude-ness, in his newly pompadoured hairdo and thick black eyeliner, sitting there in a tight white vest and smoking a cigar, it seemed as though the whole world had tipped upside down.

The only one somewhat off the pace, as usual, had been the irreplaceable Cliff Burton’s replacement, Jason Newstead, who had cut his hair short some months before and was actually in the process of growing it back when the first Load publicity pictures were taken. For Jason, as with most hardcore Metallica fans, there was pushing the envelope, and then there was tearing it to pieces and tossing it in the air like confetti. For Jason, it was as though Lemmy had suddenly walked on stage wearing a long evening gown and tiara. Actually, it was more shocking than that. Lemmy would clearly have been joking; Metallica clearly were not.

James Hetfield onstage with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra

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As Lars explained: “I’m the one who will go and find out what goes on in Oasis-land or Guns N’ Roses-land or Alice In Chains-land. I’m so curious to see how other bands do things. It’s fun to sit down with Liam Gallagher and talk complete and utter nonsense about music.”

Musically, Kirk had also moved on. Not like Lars, into the emotional quicksand of grunge or the peacocking of Britpop, but towards more leftfield musical innovators such as Nine Inch Nails, Aphex Twin and The Prodigy, groups who positioned themselves as musical emissaries of the near future.

“You can only be what the public thinks you are for so long before it becomes boring,” Kirk remarked. Since the phenomenal success of the Black Album, he had “begun to feel quite objectified”.

It would become this mutual desire to multiply the range of Metallica’s inspirations that now drew the drummer and guitarist closer together. Both recently divorced, and more intent on “seeing what’s out there”, as Lars put it, their newfound bond also had the side effect of making James feel more isolated from the group’s central purpose. Kirk would later disingenuously characterise this period as “playing referee” between Lars and James, but the fact is he was never closer to Lars – or further away from James – than now.

Lars Ulrich and Kirk Hammett onstage with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra

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By default, both James and Jason now became the metal purists of the band. For the first time, James was starting to see Jason’s side of things. “Why did we get him in the band if we didn’t like him?”

Nothing prepared them, though, for what Lars suggested next: a two-CD live album, recorded with the 90-piece San Francisco Symphony Orchestra, the album punningly titled S&M (aka Symphony And Metallica). An ambitious collaborative project, arranged and conducted by celebrated film-score composer Michael Kamen, recorded over two nights at the Berkeley Community Theater, in April 1999, that presented a selection of Metallica songs rearranged for group and orchestra.

A metal band performing their music with a classical orchestra? James and Jason thought the whole thing ludicrous. Lars and Kirk pressed ahead with it.

It had been done before, of course, notably by Lars’s beloved Deep Purple, whose 1969 performance with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra at London’s Royal Albert Hall had resulted in Purple’s live double album Concerto For Group And Orchestra.

Two years before, the Moody Blues melded the two into their Days Of Future Past album. The 70s was prime rock-meets-classical territory; led by prog-rock ‘virtuosos’ like Rick Wakeman, whose 1974 album Journey To The Centre Of The Earth combined rock ensemble, symphony orchestra and choir. Emerson, Lake & Palmer toured America with a full orchestra.

More recently, Roger Waters had performed Pink Floyd’s The Wall in Berlin with an East German symphony orchestra. Even the Scorpions had recorded an album with an orchestra, Moment Of Glory, which followed just months, in fact, after S&M.

Kamen, a 51-year-old American orchestral composer, conductor and arranger, had also worked previously with Pink Floyd, Queen, Eric Clapton, and David Bowie. It was after Kamen’s original introduction in 1991 by Metallica producer Bob Rock, who’d invited him to score an orchestral arrangement for Nothing Else Matters, that Kamen first suggested to Lars “some sort of collaboration”. Eight years later he got his wish.

Jason Newsted and James Hetfield onstage with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra

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According to Kamen, the idea was “to create a dialogue between two worlds that celebrate the power of music”. Apart from the financial motivation, which was certainly significant – the chance to record another five-million-selling album out of two nights’ live recording, along with the attendant redirection of buyers once again towards the band’s back catalogue – it was never really clear what Metallica actually hoped to achieve from the collaboration.

Kamen dutifully studied Metallica’s music for six months – the equivalent, he reckoned, of completing three film soundtracks – and scored arrangements for 21 of their songs, including two new Hetfield/Ulrich compositions: No Leaf Clover and Human. There was also a new arrangement of Ennio Morricone’s The Ecstasy Of Gold (part of the soundtrack to The Good The Bad And The Ugly) which had opened Metallica shows for years.

An initial rehearsal with the SFSO’s principal players was followed by two lengthy dress rehearsals with both band and full orchestra at the venue – for which harpist Douglas Roth arrived on a motorcycle, his tattooed arms clutching some Metallica CDs he wanted them to sign.

“There’s always [some] snotty old bastards giving you the evil eye, like: ‘Fuck, you guys are cavemen. Your music sucks,’” James complained. “But there were others that understood what we were trying to do; they could see that we fucking mean this shit, man. We have a passion in our music and our music is our life. They just grew up learning it different. They studied theory, and we studied UFO Live.”

As Kirk later said, however, Metallica’s interest in all forms of music, whether strictly metal or not, went all the way back to their former bass player Cliff Burton’s lasting influence on the band. “Cliff liked Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel, he loved classical music and especially Bach, he was the one always pushing to try something new.”

James Hetfield onstage with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra

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The Berkeley Community Theatre had a longstanding reputation for staging rock artists in concert, and many were recorded and released as live albums, including artists of the stature of Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin and Frank Zappa, to name just a few. Its rust-coloured auditorium and green psychedelically swirling carpet were little changed from the heady days when guest speakers there included Lenny Bruce, Timothy Leary and Lawrence Ferlinghetti.

Outside they erected a large tent, which served as a temporary backstage area, including portable balustrades still wrapped in plastic. Lighting designer John Broderick was overheard explaining his strategy for the dramatic overture to Kamen: “You come on and it’s bland-bland-bland. The orchestra starts up and it’s bland-bland-bland. James comes on – bland-bland-bland. Then Jason comes on – bland-bland-bland. Then Lars hits the first drum beat, and BOOM! It’s the Fillmore, 1968.”

“Ah,” Kamen said, smiling. “So that was you. I simply assumed I was having a flashback.”

“Even without these shows,” Lars conceded, “I couldn’t have imagined at nineteen what my life would be like at thirty-five – being married, having a baby boy, the way my Motörhead records are gathering dust. I love to embrace ageing, especially because in rock’n’roll it’s such a negative thing to talk about. I know it’s a cliché in rock’n’roll to say ‘We do whatever the fuck we want,’ but I believe I can say it, for the first time, a hundred per cent truthfully. I don’t think we could have done this kind of project five years ago, because I don’t feel that we had the balls to do it.”

Michael Kamen (center) with Metallica, winners of two 1999 Billboard Music Awards

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The shows themselves were a mixture of the sublime (witness the bow-tied orchestra member waving his tuba around in acknowledgement of the sea of devil-horn signs) to the ridiculous (see the goth girl in tight red vinyl dress, standing on her seat waving her black-gloved arms above her head in some strange invocation). Beware the colossal Hells Angel, doing anything he damn well pleases while the orchestra saw away at Sad But True.

Suddenly the days of Metallica tours featuring “the biggest cocaine mirror on the planet” on which a 20-foot line was carefully chopped into scoops as a treat for the crew, were over.

“If I felt that I could actually get the orchestra to snort speed and smash up their instruments,” a grinning Lars said, “I would.”

James claimed to be only dimly aware of the orchestra once the show started. “We don’t have them turned up in our monitors because they’re doing such wild, crazy and awesome things that it would really throw me off. But when the floor rumbles all of a sudden, I know something right is happening.”

To promote the S&M album and filmed-in-concert DVD, released in November 1999, Metallica also performed single concerts with orchestras in Berlin and New York. Questioned after the Berlin show, though, James laughed it off. When they were first presented with the idea, he said, “we thought: ‘Fuck, that’s got failure written all over it. It’s like fucking in church. Let’s do it!’”

Playing the whole thing down still further, he added: “It would be fun to take [the orchestra] on tour and watch them fall into the debauchery hole and completely turn into rock ruins. Taking them on the road and watching one beer turn into five beers and all of a sudden they’re in jail, divorced and hooked on heroin and smashing their cellos on stage.”

The two new songs – No Leaf Clover and Human – were also impressive, both more genuinely experimental than anything from the LoadReload period, Clover a swaggering, emotional trial-by-fire with band and orchestra meshing to spectacular effect; Human a sweeping, atmospheric piece that somehow allows oboe and keyboards to sit snugly alongside the explosive guitars, drums and treated vocals.

The remaining 17 tracks, however, often highlight what an odd, difficult fit the two highly emotive forms of music make: One sounds neutered, Enter Sandman simply a mess. Even Nothing Else Matters – Kamen’s original entry point into Metallica’s music – sounds lacklustre, perfunctory. Others, such as Hero Of The Day, work better but only because the orchestra tends to be more in the background.

Ultimately, what may well have been a unique live experience becomes, on record and DVD, more like a beautifully shot home movie: fascinating for those who were there; something that doesn’t really stand up to repeated listening/viewing for those who weren’t.

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Reviews of S&M were predictably lukewarm. In Britain, Q magazine was avuncular, describing it as “another just about forgivable flirtation with Spinal Tap-esque lunacy”. Rolling Stone claimed the album “creates the most crowded, ceiling-rattling basement rec room in rock… The effect is… one of timelessness.” Later, however, the magazine changed its mind, describing S&M as Metallica’s “very worst disc… just as useless as every other album on which a rock band plays their hits with an orchestra”.

Nevertheless, Metallica had another US No.1 album. In Britain, however, S&M didn’t even make the Top 30. No Leaf Clover was the only single from the album, but that wasn’t a hit even in America.

If as recording artists Metallica were now beginning to take on the appearance of jaded old gods, as concert masters they were still considered a top-drawer ticket, as monolithic and unmissable as the pyramids. So what if they would never make another album as good as Master Of Puppets or as popular as the Black Album, who cared if they had mislaid the plot artistically, they still kicked ass live, right, dude?

Looming on the millennial horizon: Jason quitting; suing Napster; the St Anger debacle; Some Kind Of Monster.

Compared to that, S&M seemed charming, almost innocent. Almost.

Mick Wall is the UK’s best-known rock writer, author and TV and radio programme maker, and is the author of numerous critically-acclaimed books, including definitive, bestselling titles on Led Zeppelin (When Giants Walked the Earth), Metallica (Enter Night), AC/DC (Hell Ain’t a Bad Place To Be), Black Sabbath (Symptom of the Universe), Lou Reed, The Doors (Love Becomes a Funeral Pyre), Guns N’ Roses and Lemmy. He lives in England.

“It was awkward – Yes sort of told me never to come back”: Oliver Wakeman had to tour with the prog progenitors while knowing he’d been replaced. Surprisingly, he genuinely enjoyed the trip

While there’s no escaping the fact that he’s the eldest child of Yes keyboard legend Rick Wakeman, Oliver Wakeman has carved out his own significant career. He played a diverse range of music with a broad array of bands before touring with Yes from 2008 to 2011, being dismissed when the band changed line-up during the making of Fly From Here.

In 2019 the band released the mini-album From A Page, featuring previously unreleased tracks laid down by Wakeman, Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Alan White and Benoît David before the change. Wakeman took the opportunity to tell Prog about his arrival and departure from the band.


As a child in the 70s, how aware were you of your dad’s work?

I was born in 1972 and my mum and dad split up in 1978. By the time I was 6, Dad had moved out. He was away throughout the late 70s and the early 80s, living in Switzerland, and I didn’t see him much. When he married his third wife, Nina, he had my brother and I over for weekends.

My mum got some records out of the loft which Dad had left. The first ones she gave me were Tales From Topographic Oceans, Styx’s The Grand Illusion and No Earthly Connection – which is still my favourite record of Dad’s.

When Nina told me Dad was going to do a show and play Journey To The Centre Of The Earth, I asked: “What’s that?!” It was only in my early teens that I really got to know what dad did. Also, in 1984-85, prog rock really wasn’t what teenagers talked about!

People think because Dad was in Yes, all of Yes would come round – but Dad had left Yes by ’74; and though he rejoined in ’77 he’d gone again by ’78. So I don’t have a lot of memories from that period about Yes. But I do remember we had part of the Tales From Topographic Oceans stage set in our garden!

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How did The 3 Ages Of Magick album with Steve Howe come about in 2001?

When I was 16 I’d gone on the Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe tour with Dad. I chatted to Steve a lot and we got on well. Years later, my mum lived in north Devon and I got off the train at Tiverton. Steve was there, waiting for his son to arrive. I reintroduced myself, and later sent him a copy of my debut solo album Heaven’s Isle. We would meet up whenever he was back from tour.

I started playing him bits of music and he talked about whether we should do something together. He realised he didn’t have time to do a joint album but said he would like to play guitar on some tracks. Then he suggested executive-producing it.

The album was recorded in a huge barn on a farm in Cornwall. I had an old Yamaha keyboard, and when I was trying to do a solo, a clicking sound kept coming through. It was the voltage pulsing from the electric fence keeping the cattle in! They had to turn off all the fences and get my solo done quickly so the cattle didn’t get out!

What were your feelings about joining Yes?

In my time in Yes there was a lot of interplay socially – and that came across musically. The magic happens when people enjoy working with each other

The first call came from Steve in late 2007, when Jon Anderson was still in the band. My first few months were mainly emails between Jon and myself where he talked about what he wanted to play on tour. Then he got ill and things ground to a halt. A month or so later, Steve said they had a new singer they wanted to tour with, and asked if I would still like to be involved.

I didn’t have much time to learn everything. When I asked Steve to send me what they thought of doing for the setlist, it was about three-and-a-half hours long. I’d never heard some of it before, contrary to what people might think.

We only had a couple of weeks together before we walked on stage. Steve, Chris and Alan had been playing these pieces for years. Benoît David had come from a Yes tribute band and been singing 70 per cent of the set regularly. Benoît always used to say he thought I had the hardest job. I just knuckled down; I was in the rehearsal room before anybody else and stayed there after everyone had gone.

Did you receive any advice from your dad, unsolicited or otherwise?

Nothing at all. He just said, “Have fun!” Dad knew I was capable of doing it and Steve had worked with me enough to know I had the ability. It wouldn’t

have felt right phoning dad and asking how he played certain bits. I thought I just had to approach it like any other musician lucky enough to get this gig.

You and Benoît David were the new boys in Yes. What was the dynamic within the band during that three-year period of touring?

It was a very happy time. It’s not a huge spoiler to anybody that Yes had arguments in the past. With Jon not with the band, there was a lot more responsibility on Chris, Steve and Alan to make this new version of Yes successful. They had to act as a unit to make it work. It was nice to watch them interact properly.

I’d seen the band play when dad and Jon were there and they’d be off in separate dressing rooms when the show finished, go separately to the restaurant and sit at different tables. But in my time in Yes there was a lot of interplay socially – and that came across musically. The magic happens when people enjoy working with each other.

I always try to be professional and respectful about people’s decisions. It was their band, so I had to go along with it

Were you surprised to learn that Geoff Downes was replacing you for Fly From Here?

Yeah… that was awkward. In 2009 we toured Europe on a bus. I’m a bit of an insomniac and Chris always stayed up late so we’d be chatting late at night. Chris said, “I really enjoy this band. I want us to go into the studio and record a new album.” Chris said, “Who would we get to produce it?” I suggested Trevor Horn.

Fast-forward four or five months and we started to get together for writing sessions in a house in Phoenix, which was very enjoyable. We all brought the songs that we had. Steve and I had got together in the UK beforehand to work on songs. We worked on these pieces on and off over a six-month period. Then we turned up in Beverly Hills to record with Trevor.

We went to his house and played all the songs. He said he really wanted to do We Can Fly From Here, which had been a Buggles song. I asked Steve and Chris a few times, “Why are we doing a Buggles song?” It didn’t seem to fit with the thoughts that – maybe naïvely – I had about the Yes record, that the touring band would go into the studio.

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In gaps when Trevor would head back to London, we’d work on some of the pieces that later ended up on From A Page. Then we toured South America with the intention of getting back together in January. And I sort of got told never to come back. It wasn’t quite those words; but it ended up with someone finally saying, “I’m afraid it’s all changed. Geoff is coming in and you’re not in the band any more.”

How did you feel about your departure from Yes?

It wasn’t easy. But they’d made a business decision about working with Trevor. Obviously Trevor wanted to bring in more pieces he’d written with Geoff. They felt that was the right direction for the band.

I always try to be professional and respectful about people’s decisions. It was their band, so I had to go along with it. Contractually I had to finish one tour around America and then a second set of shows in Mexico – knowing that I was out of the band. But I genuinely really enjoyed that last tour.

I thought, ‘This is quite fun – I’ve got a piece of Yes music that no one knows about!’

How did the exhumation of the four tracks on From A Page come about?

After the last shows in Mexico, I had no involvement with the Fly From Here record. Steve said my songs were mine to do what I wanted with. They sent me the studio sessions on a couple of discs, which sat on my shelf for several years.

Then I got an email from Chris saying how sorry he was about the way things turned out, and that we should stay in touch. When I heard that he’d got sick, I dropped him a line and we exchanged emails. When I was about to move house, I was listening to Live In Lyon as I was packing and received an email from their tour manager: “Chris passed away this morning.” It floored me – I could hear Chris playing upstairs.

Once I moved into the new house, I wondered what state those old sessions were in. There were loads of takes and parts of a song: it was a jumbled mess. I slowly pulled all the bits and pieces together, almost as a personal memory of my time with the band, to give me some validation of what I had done, and also to remember Chris. I thought, “This is quite fun – I’ve got a piece of Yes music that no one knows about!”

After another year, I found Words On A Page and To The Moment. I posted a tweet about it and it all snowballed. I met Steve and the Yes management; Steve sat with a pen and paper as we put To The Moment on. Within the first few notes, he put the pen down and said, “These aren’t just demos. We’ve got to make something more of these.”

Is more material from those sessions sitting in the vaults awaiting release?

Steve and I agreed to make From A Page the best it could be, rather than make it too long and pad it out with demos and other stuff. I wanted it to be something to sit alongside the Yes catalogue, rather than a compilation outtakes record.

It was lovely when Roger Dean got involved and provided the wonderful cover, because Yes album artwork is so important. I wanted to make sure that every element of this project had care lavished on it. Which was why I searched through my archives to find new photos of the band for the booklet.

The Wakeman name might open the door; but in a band like Yes, unless you can do the job, the door is going to be swiftly closed in your face

Is From A Page a bittersweet release for you?

I’m very happy with it and that people get to hear it. Obviously, there’s a tinge of regret that I’m not out there playing it with the band, because that would have been lovely – particularly with Chris when he was around. But you can’t ever really plan life and it adds validation to the period that Benoît and I had in the band. We came in and helped make Yes a happy touring entity again. It’s nice to prove that we were in the studio coming up with good music.

Is the Wakeman surname a blessing, a curse or both?

When I started with Yes, people thought I got the job because of the name. It might open the door; but in a band like Yes, unless you can do the job, the door is going to be swiftly closed in your face.

My brother Adam and I try to uphold the quality of what we think the Wakeman name stands for. We’ve learned from Dad about quality and working with audiences. I have to uphold what people would expect from seeing something with the name Wakeman on it.

Every Pink Floyd album ranked from worst to best

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There have been four distinct phases in Pink Floyd’s career. The first was the Syd-Barrett-led band, which came together in late 1965 and lasted for just three singles and one album before Barrett fell apart at the end of 1967 and was forced to leave the band. And for some people, Pink Floyd ended at this point.

Then there was the Pink Floyd that picked up the pieces and spent five years groping for a suitable direction, before The Dark Side Of The Moon went supernova and transformed their fortunes and replotted their future. After five hugely successful albums increasingly dominated by Roger Waters, the whole thing disintegrated with sullen rancour at the start of the ’80s.

And then there was what became phase three, after Pink Floyd was retrieved by guitarist David Gilmour (who had replaced Syd Barrett) and restored to their pre-eminent position in the rock hierarchy.

A belated fourth phase came in 2015, 20 years after many had assumed that Gilmour had wound up the band, with the release of The Endless River, a record that the guitarist definitively marked the end of the Pink Floyd journey. At least until the Hey Hey Rise Up single arrived in 2022.

Throughout it all, Pink Floyd have maintained a ‘corporate’ identity while remaining anonymous individually; it’s possible you might not recognise a member of the band on the street – something which has simply added to their enigma.

These are Pink Floyd’s best albums. And one should should avoid.

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Hugh Fielder has been writing about music for 50 years. Actually 61 if you include the essay he wrote about the Rolling Stones in exchange for taking time off school to see them at the Ipswich Gaumont in 1964. He was news editor of Sounds magazine from 1975 to 1992 and editor of Tower Records Top magazine from 1992 to 2001. Since then he has been freelance. He has interviewed the great, the good and the not so good and written books about some of them. His favourite possession is a piece of columnar basalt he brought back from Iceland.

“The busker in my high street is terrible! He never gets any better. I had this idea: he doesn’t realise he’s dead and carries on”: Steven Wilson’s desperate desire to believe in ghosts inspired his last fully prog album

”At this time in my life I want to make records that are astonishing, difficult, ambitious and pretentious,” Steven Wilson told Prog of his third solo album, The Raven That Refused To Sing (And Other Stories) ahead of its release in 2013. Inspired musically by King Crimson and Frank Zappa, technically by Alan Parsons (who engineered the record) and thematically by Edgar Allan Poe, MR James and spooky 70s kids’ TV including Children Of The Stones, Wilson delivered a collection of ghost stories that reflected his fascination with mortality. He discussed each of the six pieces that appeared on his last fully prog album until 2025’s The Overview.


Luminol

If you go back through my discography, I tend to start with something ambient that eases you gradually in. This time I wanted to do the opposite – bang, straight in, excitement. I liked starting this one with just the bass and drums.

Some have said, ‘Oh, that’s classic Yes, like Squire and Bruford,’ and in a way it is, because you don’t hear that so often these days. Then the only vocal line you hear in the first five minutes is: ‘Here we all are, born into a struggle / To come so far but end up returning to dust.’ That’s a kind of prologue to the whole idea of ghost stories and mortality – the fascination with death and the afterlife.

It’s based on someone who is a busker where I live. He’s in the high street every day. He’s terrible! He never ever seems to get any better and he never gives up. I had this idea: maybe one day this guy is just going to die of hypothermia or something. And even when he dies, he’s still going to be there. So it’s this idea of this busker that dies and doesn’t realise that he’s dead, and just carries on performing in the street.

It’s in the tradition of those old Victorian stories where people died but were not aware of it, and continued to manifest. A ghost in life, a ghost in death…

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Drive Home

A happily-married couple are driving along. The man looks out of his driver-side window, looks back, and his wife has gone, disappeared. He stops the car, looks around, does the rational things, but there’s nothing. Years and years later, it eventually comes back to him – there was a terrible accident and she died, and it was all his fault. Because he couldn’t deal with that information, he’d wilfully erased a whole piece of time from his mind.

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The Holy Drinker

This is about a guy who challenges Satan to a drinking contest. It’s a Faustian, no-win situation… ultimately he’s dragged down into Hell. It’s the kind of thing Poe might have written.

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Such long pieces, musically, take a long time to write. You’re looking for a satisfying shape; you have to find the right order for all the scenes, the narrative flow, like making a movie. Sometimes you have to kill your darlings.

And it’s only because this band are so good that I’d even consider recording live – the idea of making a record where accidents are allowed to happen is very unusual for me as a producer. But it was a fantastic experience.


The Pin Drop

A woman sings it – she’s floating down a river, but it’s this beautiful image, she’s at peace. The thing is that she’s dead, murdered by her husband. I had an Ophelia-type image in my mind. As she floats, she’s reflecting on what’s happened.

I’d started reading a lot of ghost stories about this time last year. It’s fair to say every human being, whether they realise it or not, is obsessed with their own mortality: the idea that one day they’ll cease to exist. It’s an incredible burden to carry, isn’t it? Yet it creates a kind of momentum to life. No matter how you look at it, you’re always going to be up against the clock.


The Watchmaker

The little old watchmaker sits alone in his workshop every night, mending watches and clocks. It seems a romantic image – until the song reveals that he’s killed his wife and buried her under the floorboards. So it becomes macabre. She comes back at the end and says he’ll never be rid of her.

I’d emphasise that these are ghost stories, they’re not horror stories. It’s about dread. Something has happened; like in the best MR James tales, you can just feel it. It’s a cynical song. It’s also about compromise: this elderly couple have been together 50 years through inertia, not love; through habit and fear. Then one day something snaps.

For me, regret is the tragedy of the human condition: if you haven’t achieved what you wanted to. It’s most poignant when people reach the end of their lives…

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The Raven That Refused To Sing

Behaving like a frontman for the first time has maybe thrown more focus on what I actually do as a singer. This is the big orchestral ballad – what they call an anthem, I believe!

I always adored Jeff Lynne’s work with ELO, and Scott Walker’s early albums, and Nick Drake’s Five Leaves Left: those beautiful romantic string arrangements. I’m very proud of this song; it’s direct and simple, yet there’s no way it could be more pompous! Actually, it could have been if I’d put a choir on it too.

There’s a bitter, lonely old man with nothing in his life, just this day-to-day existence. When he was a young kid his big sister, who was everything to him, died. He’s never got over this loss; it’s coloured his entire life. In fairytale tradition, the local kids make fun of him. It’s forever snowing in his garden.

Then one day a raven visits, and for him becomes the manifestation of his dead sister. Once she sings he will have proof. Or is he imagining it?

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Watch Toyah Willcox run her fingers seductively through Robert Fripp’s hair as they perform Blondie’s One Way Or Another

Internet legends Toyah Willcox and Robert Fripp have raised temperatures throughout cyberspace in the latest edition of their long-running YouTube series of Sunday Lunch performances.

It’s a flirtatious cover of Blondie‘s 1979 smash One Way Or Another that does the damage, as Willcox spends the song’s duration seductively running her fingers through the King Crimson man’s hair before rubbing his head and face with apparent affection.

As usual, the performance is over almost before it’s begun, with Fripp revealing that he’s about to make his bride “a tasty meal” before a short blooper real shows both musicians uttering the time-honoured exclamation “bollocks!”

One Way Or Another was originally inspired by an incident in 1973, when Blondie frontwoman Deborah Harry was forced to move after being pestered by a former boyfriend.

“I was actually stalked by a nutjob so it came out of a not-so-friendly personal event,” Harry told Entertainment Weekly in 2011. “But I tried to inject a little bit of levity into it to make it more lighthearted. I think in a way that’s a normal kind of survival mechanism. You know, just shake it off, say one way or another, and get on with your life. Everyone can relate to that and I think that’s the beauty of it.”

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In January King Crimson announced a partnership with Nugs, the online platform that hosts recordings of live performances by acts like Bruce Springsteen, Metallica, Pearl Jam and Dead & Company, with 19 shows from King Crimson’s Seven Headed Beast 2014 US tour made available to stream or buy on CD.

Now more shows have been added to the site, with all 26 shows from the European leg of the band’s 1996 Thrakattak tour available to stream or buy. King Crimson now have 53 shows available at Nugs, which can be streamed with a 7-day free trial.

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“We killed every night. So I knew I had something”: The epic saga of one of rock’s great live acts, Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band

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In 2013, as Bob Seger prepared to cross the US on his Rock & Roll Never Forgets tour, the Detroit veteran sat down with Classic Rock to talk about his early years, from the hit that made him a regional star to the live album that made him a national treasure.


Ramblin’ Gamblin’ Man gave Bob Seger a Top 20 hit in 1968. The one-two punch of Live Bullet and Night Moves in 1976 turned him into a platinum-level superstar. The years in between made him a legend.

In the interim, the Michigan singer-songwriter was US rock’s prototypical journeyman, releasing seven albums that never took hold and making his living on the road, playing high-school gyms and dances, rock and folk clubs, even the occasional arena opening date. He worked in a variety of modes, including solo acoustic, in the lead-up to the 1973 formation of his Silver Bullet Band.

There were rough patches along the way, and Seger considered hanging up his guitar at one point. Ted Nugent recalls giving him an early 70s pep talk in Tennessee when Seger was “still vibrant but fatigued… frustrated. I said, ‘Just keep going, man. You know you’re great. You’ve just got to keep going.’” But Seger says he never doubted his efforts would be rewarded.

“In that period, even though we were playing, like, 250 nights a year, I could tell I had something because the audiences wanted me back,” says Seger, now 68 and ensconced in a 20-year marriage, and father to two college-aged children. “And we killed every night. So I knew I had something.”

That Seger merited a large audience was never in doubt. He was hooked at an early age, growing up in the liberal college town of Ann Arbor. “My dad made a big deal when I was, like, four years old about the fact that I sang I’m Looking Over A Four-Leaf Clover in the back of his ’49 Buick,” Seger recalls. “He just went nuts over that. I think that was maybe the very first inclination for me.”

Stewart Seger, an auto worker who played a variety of instruments and on weekends performed with bands, taught the youngest of his two sons some chords on the bass ukulele when Seger was nine. The rest is rock’n’roll history. A young Seger racked up regional hits with Doug Brown & The Omens (The Ballad Of The Yellow Beret) and, after meeting manager/producer Ed ‘Punch’ Andrews, on his own.

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East Side Story, a Gloria-aping garage rocker, sold 50,000 copies, and the pounding Heavy Music was on the verge of breaking the Hot 100 when Cameo-Parkway Records went out of business. Seger subsequently chose Capitol Records over Motown. After scoring more local success with the anti-war 2+2=?, Ramblin’ Gamblin’ Man, with Seger protégé and future Eagle Glenn Frey singing back-up, ambled its way to No.17.

“I’ll never forget hearing Ramblin’ Gamblin’ Man for the first time,” says Don Brewer, then about to break big with Grand Funk Railroad and now double-duty drummer for Seger’s Silver Bullet Band. “I was saying, ‘Man, listen to this. Listen to hat B3 [Hammond organ],’ ‘cos we were totally R&B guys. ‘Listen to that – the whole song is nothing but B3! This is so cool!’“

“We’d had a few records that were popular around town and you’d hear on the radio a lot,” Seger adds, “but, yeah, that was a little different. That was a hit.”

The cover of Classic Magazine 188

This feature originally appeared in Classic Rock 188 (September 2013) (Image credit: Future)

But glory – including a free concert for 20,000 in the parking lot of a Detroit mall – was short-lived. Seger wouldn’t have another Top 40 hit for eight years and took just as long to get an album in the top half of the Billboard 200 chart. Theories range from poor management to lack of record company support to just plain bad luck.

Seger takes some of the blame. “I wasn’t necessarily a great songwriter at that time,” he acknowledges. “I think I focused more on playing the guitar and singing… even though Dylan and Van Morrison were important to me and influences on me. That craft was something that developed slowly.”

His second album, 1969’s Noah, was a bust, as much a showcase for Bob Seger System member Tom Neme, who wrote half the songs, as for Seger himself. He considered quitting and going to college, but instead made 1970’s Mongrel, featuring fan favourite Lucifer.

Despite highlights such as Michigan’s Goose Lake International Music Festival in 1970, and opening for John Lennon and Yoko Ono at the John Sinclair Freedom Rally in Ann Arbor, 1971, he shifted gears and went solo acoustic on the following year’s Brand New Morning, another commercial failure (Seger claimed, “most of it’s crap”) that marked the end of his Capitol tenure.

“People loved Bob that way, but to me it was a mixed blessing,” former road manager Tom Weschler says of his acoustic period. “Here’s Seger thinking, ‘I can do gigs like Simon & Garfunkel, without Garfunkel.’ And it worked. He was very good. But it wasn’t as good as the full-on thing. Fortunately, he quickly rekindled his appetite for a band.”

Seger hooked up with drummer David Teegarden and keyboardist Skip Knape, who moved to Detroit from Oklahoma and had a hit of their own with God, Love And Rock & Roll in 1970. Performing first as the STK trio and then as an expanded band, their rootsy charm marked Seger’s covers-heavy 1972 Smokin’ O.P.’s (slang for nicking somebody else’s cigarettes), released on manager Andrews’ Palladium Records label. But this time was most notable for the road adventure that became a much-loved song, Turn The Page.

“It was us and these two hulking motorcycle guys who travelled with us and used to set up the equipment,” Seger relates. “We were on our way from Madison, Wisconsin or some place and stopped for something to eat. The big guys were sleeping, and the skinny little rock guys went into this roadside place by ourselves.” Comments were made about the musicians’ hair – immortalised in song as ‘Is that a woman or a man?’ – and Seger recalls Teegarden getting feisty.

“Next to [guitarist] Monk Bruce, Teegarden was the smallest, and here he is mouthing off at these dudes,” he laughs. “We had to drag him out of there. It’s a good thing [they] didn’t follow us – little did they know what was waiting for them in the truck. Those guys were big!”

For the noirish Turn The Page, road manager Weschler coached Alto Reed on his immortal saxophone solo: “It’s 3am. You’re under a streetlamp. There’s a light mist coming down. You’re all by yourself…” It appeared on 1973’s Back In ’72, where Seger rocked hard.

“Seger became disillusioned with STK,” Weschler says. “He wanted more – more musicians, more background singers, more of a sound.” Unfortunately, full-throttle rocker Rosalie (covered by Thin Lizzy), a tribute to Canadian radio executive Rosalie Trombley, backfired when she wouldn’t play it due to conflict of interest.

The groups, meanwhile, went through several incarnations, with names such as My Band and the Borneo Band – some of whom went on to work with Eric Clapton – before the Silver Bullet Band were established in time for 1974’s Seven (released, like Back In ’72, on Warner Bros’ Reprise imprint).

But despite everything – including a substantial Midwest following, and pockets in upstate New York and Florida – Seger hovered below the rock-star radar. Touring sustained him, as the Silver Bullet crew solidified into a tight unit. “We played a lot – a lot,” asserts bassist Chris Campbell. “We did so many shows you couldn’t not be tight. Practice makes perfect – and we were kind of beyond practice in a way.”

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Bob Seger onstage at the New Fillmore East in New York in December 1974.  (Image credit: Fin Costello/Redferns)

It was noted by their peers. Kiss had Seger & co open during 1975, and Paul Stanley recalls “they were just a great, great rock’n’roll band, 110 per cent. They used to get encores – the opening act, getting encores. And we let them because they were that good. They deserved it.” Dan Hicks says he put his Hot Licks on before the Silver Bullets, after hearing the group’s soundcheck. “If we would have tried to follow them, we would have died,” he said.

Their confidence can be heard on 1975’s Beautiful Loser, of which Seger says, “I think you can hear a lot of growth in the songwriting.” He was still rocking – viz Katmandu and the cover of Ike & Tina Turner’s Nutbush City Limits – but there was greater assurance in ballads and ‘mediums’ like Jody Girl and the title-track paean to a long-suffering also-ran (‘He’s always willing to be second best/A perfect lodger, a perfect guest’).

“I wasn’t really sure about some of it,” Seger confesses, “but I played it for Glenn [Frey] and he really encouraged me. He said, ‘Do something diverse. Don’t be afraid.’”

It was the beginning of Seger’s comeback. Though Beautiful Loser, his return to Capitol, peaked at 131 (it eventually went double-platinum), the songs did not escape notice. The next move – Live Bullet, recorded over two nights at Detroit’s Cobo Arena in September 1975 – was pure genius, even if it was a stopgap before Night Moves. It caught Seger and the Silver Bullets at their best, giving the world a two-disc earful of what he was supposed to sound like and an indication of what he’d try to capture on his next studio album.

“I thought we were just taping one of the nights, but Punch did both and just didn’t tell me, so we’d have backup,” Seger says with a laugh.

Radio stations around the country embraced the live material; Nutbush City Limits even charted, while it gave new life to Turn The Page and reinvented Beautiful Loser/Travelin’ Man as a soaring medley. Seger was on the radar again and knew that “if we came with something good, a lot of people would be waiting to hear it.”

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It happened with Night Moves. Driven by the title track’s Top Five success, the album was a smash, ultimately going six-times platinum. “After going so long, it was pretty sweet,” Seger acknowledges.

Nine more platinum LPs followed, with more than 52 million sales worldwide, another dozen Top 20 hits, a Grammy Award, inductions into the Rock And Roll (2004) and Songwriters (2012) Halls Of Fame, and a 2011 Bob Seger Day in Michigan.

Though his last set, Face The Promise, was in 2006, Seger released compilations (Early Seger Vol. 1, Ultimate Hits: Rock And Roll Never Forgets) and took the Silver Bullet Band on the road in 2011 and 2013. A new album is in the works for 2014, possibly including John Hiatt’s Detroit Made and the Wilco/Billy Bragg/Woody Guthrie collaboration California Stars, both performed on his last tour.

“All I’m concerned about right now is trying to make that [album] as good as it can be,” he says. “I wouldn’t say I’m in the planning stages of retiring, but I’m wide open to it now, and I don’t know how much more there is to prove.

“I’ve had a great career, y’know? It’s been a great run. I don’t want to overstay my welcome. It’d just be nice to have one last record out there, one last swan song, and then… we’ll look at everything else.”

This feature originally appeared in Classic Rock 188 (September 2013). Bob Seger released Ride Out in 2014 and a final album, I Knew You When, in 2017. He retired in 2019.

Gary Graff is an award-winning veteran music journalist based in metro Detroit, writing regularly for Billboard, Ultimate Classic Rock, Media News Group, Music Connection, United Stations Radio Networks and others. Graff’s work has also appeared in Rolling Stone, Guitar World, Classic Rock, Revolver, the San Francisco Chronicle, AARP magazine, the Detroit Jewish News, The Forward and others. Graff has co-written and edited books about Bob Seger, Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen. A professional voter for the Grammy Awards and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Graff co-founded the Detroit Music Awards in 1989 and continues as the organisation’s chief producer.

10 Most Spellbinding Songs Of All Time

10 Most Spellbinding Songs Of All Time

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Spellbinding music is not confined to the mystical—it’s something felt as much as it is heard. While some songs captivate through haunting lyrics of mysticism and magic, others cast their spell through hypnotic grooves, ethereal melodies, or performances so powerful they seem to exist outside of time. This list of the 10 Most Spellbinding Songs of All Time recognizes tracks that have mesmerized audiences in different ways—some through lyrical imagery that evokes mystery, others through musical arrangements that feel entrancing, and a few that embody both. What unites them all is their ability to transport listeners into another realm, whether through the otherworldly wail of a vocal, the atmospheric tension of an instrumental, or the sheer magic of an unforgettable song.

Fleetwood Mac’s “Rhiannon” stands as a defining example of Stevie Nicks’ mystical songwriting, bringing together poetic lyrics and a hypnotic musical arrangement that made it one of the band’s most iconic tracks. Nina Simone’s rendition of “I Put a Spell on You” transformed the song from a bluesy lament into a smoldering, theatrical performance dripping with raw emotion. Til’ Tuesday’s “Voices Carry” wrapped its haunting story of silenced love in an unforgettable, urgent melody that lingers long after the final note. “Sorcerer” by Stevie Nicks and Sheryl Crow shimmered with an ethereal quality, reinforcing Nicks’ reputation as one of rock’s most enigmatic voices.

Bruce Springsteen’s “I’m On Fire” proved that spellbinding music doesn’t need theatrics—its minimal arrangement and hushed delivery created an atmosphere of quiet, smoldering intensity. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers’ “Mary Jane’s Last Dance” wove together classic rock, folk influences, and a hypnotic rhythm that made it feel like a story unfolding in a dream. Classics IV’s “Spooky” became a jazz-infused pop standard so compelling that it was reimagined in multiple hit versions, each carrying its own unique mystique.

Santana’s take on “Black Magic Woman” extended the song’s original blues roots into a Latin-rock masterpiece, layering its spellbinding nature with intricate guitar work. The Eagles’ “Witchy Woman” built its hypnotic allure through slinking rhythms, a sultry vocal delivery, and an undeniable air of mystery. Fleetwood Mac’s “Hypnotized” lived up to its name, enveloping listeners in a trance-like groove that made it one of the band’s most mesmerizing deep cuts.

Each of these songs holds a unique power, demonstrating that spellbinding music is not limited to one genre, theme, or style. Whether it’s the seductive pulse of a rhythm section, the shimmer of a reverb-drenched guitar, or the haunting echo of a lyric that stays in the mind long after the music stops, these tracks prove that some songs don’t just play—they enchant.

# 10 – Hypnotized – Fleetwood Mac

Fleetwood Mac’s “Hypnotized” stood as one of the most intriguing compositions of the band’s transitional era, blending surreal storytelling with an ethereal groove. Released on Mystery to Me in 1973, the song was written and sung by Bob Welch, whose tenure with the band marked a bridge between their early British blues roots and the polished mainstream success they would achieve later in the decade. Recorded at Rolling Stones Mobile Studio and produced by Martin Birch, “Hypnotized” reflected a shift in Fleetwood Mac’s sound, leaning into jazz-inflected rhythms and dreamy atmospheres that would later become synonymous with their most celebrated work. Mick Fleetwood’s steady drumming, John McVie’s fluid basslines, and Welch’s mesmerizing guitar work created a hypnotic effect that fully justified the song’s title.

Lyrically, “Hypnotized” wove a mystifying narrative that blurred the lines between reality and illusion. Welch delivered enigmatic verses about unexplainable occurrences, including UFO sightings and supernatural landscapes, evoking an eerie yet captivating ambiance. The imagery of a strange, glass-like pond in North Carolina and a man flying without an airplane in Mexico reinforced the song’s dreamlike quality, making it feel like a journey into the unknown. Rather than presenting a clear storyline, the lyrics created an impressionistic, almost trance-inducing effect, heightening the song’s otherworldly appeal. This approach set “Hypnotized” apart from the blues-based storytelling of Fleetwood Mac’s earlier material, demonstrating Welch’s knack for crafting evocative, almost cinematic songwriting.

Although Mystery to Me did not produce any major hit singles, “Hypnotized” became one of Fleetwood Mac’s most beloved deep cuts, garnering significant airplay on FM rock radio throughout the 1970s. The song’s hypnotic groove and unorthodox subject matter made it a favorite in live performances, where Welch’s intricate guitar lines and Fleetwood’s fluid percussion took on an almost improvisational feel. “Hypnotized” also foreshadowed the band’s increasing embrace of atmospheric and melodic textures, a direction that would reach its pinnacle after Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined the lineup two years later.

In the context of this list, “Hypnotized” fits seamlessly among the most spellbinding songs of all time, thanks to its entrancing rhythm, mysterious lyrics, and immersive sonic landscape. While other songs on the list may achieve their hypnotic effect through layered production or haunting vocal performances, Fleetwood Mac’s contribution relies on the subtle power of suggestion—pulling listeners into a surreal world that lingers in the mind long after the final note fades.

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# 9 – Witchy Woman – Eagles

The spellbinding aura of “Witchy Woman” set a mysterious and mystical tone that distinguished it from much of The Eagles’ early catalog. Released in 1972 as the second single from their self-titled debut album, the song was written by Don Henley and Bernie Leadon, marking Henley’s first major contribution to the band as a songwriter and lead vocalist. Recorded at Olympic Studios in London and produced by Glyn Johns, “Witchy Woman” showcased a haunting combination of Leadon’s slithering, minor-key guitar riff and Henley’s evocative lyrics, which painted a portrait of an alluring yet dangerous woman steeped in mysticism. With its distinctive desert-rock rhythm and an air of supernatural intrigue, the song fit perfectly into the landscape of early 1970s rock, blending country, folk, and blues elements into something wholly atmospheric.

Lyrically, “Witchy Woman” conjured imagery of an enchantress with “raven hair and ruby lips” who had “been sleeping in the Devil’s bed.” The verses, steeped in dark, mystical overtones, wove together themes of seduction, sorcery, and obsession. Henley later cited F. Scott Fitzgerald’s troubled wife, Zelda, as an inspiration, particularly in lines referring to a woman who “drove herself to madness with a silver spoon,” a nod to Zelda’s struggles with mental illness. The song’s refrain, “Woo-hoo, witchy woman / See how high she flies,” underscored the intoxicating spell the protagonist cast over the narrator. Musically, the track’s hypnotic percussion and eerie vocal harmonies reinforced its ghostly, almost trance-like effect, making it one of the most hypnotic songs in The Eagles’ catalog.

“Witchy Woman” became The Eagles’ first Top 10 hit, peaking at No. 9 on the Billboard Hot 100, and helped establish them as one of the most promising rock bands of the decade. The song’s supernatural mystique set it apart from the more country-rock-leaning tracks on Eagles and foreshadowed Henley’s penchant for introspective and evocative storytelling. While the band would later find greater commercial success with polished, radio-friendly anthems, “Witchy Woman” retained its own cult appeal, frequently included in The Eagles’ live performances and later covered by various artists.

In the context of this list, “Witchy Woman” stands out as one of the most spellbinding songs ever recorded, not just for its lyrical mysticism but for the way it immerses the listener in a world of shadowy allure. Much like Fleetwood Mac’s “Hypnotized,” which delved into the unexplained and surreal, The Eagles’ haunting track weaved an intoxicating sense of mystery into its very fabric. Where “Hypnotized” pulled the listener into dreamlike narratives of the supernatural, “Witchy Woman” seduced with its darker, more sensual energy. Both songs serve as prime examples of how rock music has often drawn upon the mystical and unknown to create something utterly transfixing.

Read More: Complete List of Eagles Songs From A to Z

# 8 – Black Magic Woman – Santana

Santana transformed “Black Magic Woman” into a spellbinding fusion of blues, Latin rock, and mysticism, crafting one of the most hypnotic songs of the 1970s. Originally written and recorded by Peter Green for Fleetwood Mac in 1968, the song took on an entirely new life when Santana included it on Abraxas in 1970. Produced by Fred Catero and Carlos Santana, and recorded at Wally Heider Studios in San Francisco, the track seamlessly blended Green’s blues foundation with the Afro-Cuban rhythms and electrifying guitar work that defined Santana’s sound. The addition of Gábor Szabó’s instrumental piece “Gypsy Queen” in the outro gave the song an even more hypnotic quality, pushing it further into the realm of the transcendental.

Lyrically, “Black Magic Woman” encapsulated the dangerous allure of a woman whose enchantment was irresistible yet perilous. The narrator found himself under her spell, helpless against the emotional and psychological hold she exerted over him. The lines “Got a black magic woman / She’s trying to make a devil out of me” suggested an ominous transformation, as if the protagonist were losing his sense of self to forces beyond his control. Santana’s rendition, sung by Gregg Rolie, carried an added sensuality, heightening the mystique of the lyrics. The deep, hypnotic groove—built on congas, timbales, and organ swells—created an intoxicating atmosphere, making it one of the most bewitching songs in rock history.

The single reached No. 4 on the Billboard Hot 100, becoming one of Santana’s most recognizable hits and cementing Abraxas as a landmark album. The song’s success further established the band’s unique ability to merge blues and Latin influences into something entirely original. Within the context of this list, “Black Magic Woman” stands alongside The Eagles’ “Witchy Woman” as a song steeped in supernatural themes, both exploring the magnetic yet ominous pull of an otherworldly woman. While “Witchy Woman” conjured images of firelight and mysticism, Santana’s track cast a darker spell, entrancing the listener with its slow-burning groove and sinuous guitar lines.

Decades after its release, “Black Magic Woman” remains an essential entry in Santana’s catalog, frequently performed live and celebrated for its hypnotic blend of styles. Its legacy endures, proving that few songs have ever captured the sensation of enchantment quite like this one.

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# 7 – Spooky – Classics IV

“Spooky” by Classics IV stands as a defining song of the late 1960s, effortlessly blending jazz-inflected pop with a touch of eerie romance. Originally conceived as an instrumental by saxophonist Mike Sharpe in 1967, the track took on new life when J.R. Cobb and Buddy Buie added lyrics, transforming it into a haunting love song about an unpredictable, enigmatic woman. Recorded at Master Sound Studios in Atlanta with Buie at the helm, “Spooky” became the band’s signature hit, reaching No. 3 on the Billboard Hot 100 in early 1968. Its smooth yet subtly haunting sound set it apart from other love songs of the era, giving it a distinct place in pop history.

The song’s lyrics tell the story of a woman whose charm is as bewitching as it is frustrating. The narrator finds himself captivated by her mysterious nature, never sure where he stands, yet unable to resist her pull. The final verse, where he plans to propose on Halloween, adds a playful yet fittingly supernatural twist. Unlike the ominous, spellbinding themes of Santana’s “Black Magic Woman” or The Eagles’ “Witchy Woman,” “Spooky” thrives in a space between flirtation and spectral intrigue, where love feels both thrilling and slightly unnerving.

Over the years, “Spooky” has taken on an afterlife of its own, spawning multiple hit versions. The Atlanta Rhythm Section, featuring former members of Classics IV, revived the song in 1979 with a slicker, Southern rock-influenced take, bringing it back onto the charts. But perhaps the most beloved rendition came from Dusty Springfield, whose smoky, seductive interpretation remains our favorite. Her version brought an added depth of sophistication, turning the song into a hypnotic, jazz-tinged slow burn that highlighted its sultry undertones. Springfield’s delivery made the lyrics feel more intimate and haunting, proving that sometimes, a reinterpretation can surpass the original in pure atmospheric power.

By honoring the Classics IV version on this list, we acknowledge the song’s roots while celebrating the many ways it has continued to enchant audiences. Its hypnotic quality remains as potent as ever, weaving a spell across generations. “Spooky” endures not just because of its irresistible melody and jazz-inflected groove, but because its sense of mystery and allure never fades—whether through its original form or through Dusty Springfield’s unforgettable renditio

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# 6 – Mary Jane’s Last Dance – Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers captured a haunting sense of nostalgia and loss with “Mary Jane’s Last Dance,” a song that blurred the line between small-town romance and something far more melancholic. Recorded during sessions for Greatest Hits in 1993, the track became one of Petty’s most celebrated late-era songs, standing alongside his classic works from the late 1970s and 1980s. Produced by Rick Rubin and recorded at Ocean Way Recording in Los Angeles, it featured Mike Campbell’s hypnotic guitar riff and Benmont Tench’s organ flourishes, adding to its spellbinding atmosphere. The track was released as a single and became a major success, reaching No. 14 on the Billboard Hot 100 and topping the Billboard Album Rock Tracks chart.

Lyrically, “Mary Jane’s Last Dance” is open to interpretation, adding to its mystique. Some listeners view it as a bittersweet farewell to a fleeting love, while others see it as an allegory for Petty’s relationship with fame, addiction, or even mortality. Lines like “I feel summer creepin’ in and I’m tired of this town again” evoke a restless dissatisfaction that runs throughout Petty’s songwriting, mirroring themes of disillusionment found in tracks like “Refugee” and “American Girl.” The name “Mary Jane” has also led many to believe the song is a veiled reference to marijuana, though Petty himself played coy about the interpretation.

The song’s eerie aura was amplified by its unforgettable music video, which starred Kim Basinger as a lifeless woman being carried around by a mortician played by Petty. The dark, cinematic visuals added a ghostly quality to the song, making it one of the most striking videos of the 1990s. Comparatively, its haunting tone aligns with the spellbinding nature of other songs on this list, including Fleetwood Mac’s “Hypnotized” and Santana’s “Black Magic Woman,” each of which weaves a hypnotic musical spell that lingers long after the final note. “Mary Jane’s Last Dance” remains one of Petty’s defining moments, a song that captures longing, regret, and an irresistible pull toward the past.

Read More: Top 10 Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers Songs

# 5 – I’m On Fire – Bruce Springsteen

Bruce Springsteen stripped his sound down to a slow-burning intensity with “I’m on Fire,” a song that stood apart from the anthemic rock that dominated Born in the U.S.A. Released as the fourth single from the album in 1985, the track showcased a haunting minimalism, built on a sparse arrangement of electric guitar, subtle percussion, and Springsteen’s breathy, restrained vocals. Recorded at The Power Station in New York City and produced by Springsteen, Jon Landau, Chuck Plotkin, and Steve Van Zandt, the song became a hit, peaking at No. 6 on the Billboard Hot 100.

Lyrically, “I’m on Fire” dripped with longing and unease, its few verses painting a picture of restless desire that bordered on obsession. The lines “Sometimes it’s like someone took a knife, baby, edgy and dull / And cut a six-inch valley through the middle of my skull” conveyed a fevered desperation, heightening the song’s dreamlike, almost hypnotic quality. Its quiet intensity aligns with other songs on this list, particularly Fleetwood Mac’s “Hypnotized,” which similarly evokes an atmosphere of intrigue and mystery. Unlike Santana’s “Black Magic Woman” or the Eagles’ “Witchy Woman,” which deal in overt mysticism, “I’m on Fire” found its spellbinding nature in understatement, making it one of Springsteen’s most evocative recordings.

The song’s eerie mood was reinforced by its music video, which depicted Springsteen as an auto mechanic entangled in a wordless attraction to a wealthy woman whose car he services. The tension, never explicitly addressed, added to the song’s enigmatic quality. “I’m on Fire” proved that Springsteen could be just as compelling in a whisper as he was in his full-throttle rock anthems, earning its place among the most hauntingly captivating songs of all time.

Read More: Complete List Of Bruce Springsteen Songs From A to Z

# 4 – Sorcerer – Stevie Nicks & Sheryl Crow

Stevie Nicks first wrote “Sorcerer” in the 1970s, during the early years of Fleetwood Mac, but the song would not see an official studio release until her 2001 album Trouble in Shangri-La. Featuring Sheryl Crow on backing vocals and co-production, this long-gestating track carried the same ethereal quality that had defined Nicks’ career, weaving together mystical imagery and emotional vulnerability. Recorded at Ocean Way Studios in Los Angeles, the song encapsulated Nicks’ signature blend of poetic storytelling and atmospheric rock, marking it as one of the most evocative tracks on the album.

Lyrically, “Sorcerer” conjured visions of power, desire, and illusion, fitting seamlessly into the thematic landscape of this list. The refrain “Sorcerer, who is the master?” suggested a struggle between control and surrender, a theme that also surfaced in Santana’s “Black Magic Woman” and the Eagles’ “Witchy Woman.” Unlike those songs, however, “Sorcerer” took a more introspective approach, with Nicks portraying a figure between longing and luxury’s consequences. The line “Timeless in your finery, it’s a high price for your luxury” reflected the cost of ambition and excess, a theme that ran throughout Trouble in Shangri-La.

The inclusion of Sheryl Crow added another dimension to the track, her harmonies blending seamlessly with Nicks’ unmistakable voice. Though it was not released as a single, “Sorcerer” stood out as a deeply personal entry in Nicks’ catalog, tied to her long history of unreleased demos and reimagined compositions. Its dreamlike quality and evocative lyricism secured its place among the most spellbinding songs of all time, reinforcing the mystical persona that Nicks had cultivated over decades.

Read More: Complete List Of Stevie Nicks Songs From A to Z

# 3 – Voices Carry – Til’ Tuesday

‘Til Tuesday broke into mainstream success with “Voices Carry,” the lead single from their 1985 debut album of the same name. The song, recorded at Syncro Sound in Boston and produced by Mike Thorne, introduced audiences to the band’s polished new wave sound, anchored by Aimee Mann’s haunting vocals and a deeply evocative narrative. With its dramatic lyrics and moody synthesizer arrangements, “Voices Carry” captured a sense of suffocating control, making it a fitting entry in this list of spellbinding songs.

Lyrically, “Voices Carry” chronicled the tension of a toxic relationship, where the protagonist struggled under the weight of emotional repression. Lines like “Hush hush, keep it down now, voices carry” reinforced the theme of silencing, as Mann’s character was pressured to suppress her emotions to maintain peace. The song’s chorus built on this suffocating dynamic, with the repeated plea to keep quiet serving as both a literal and metaphorical command. In comparison to Fleetwood Mac’s “Hypnotized,” which dealt with surreal fascination, or “I’m on Fire” by Bruce Springsteen, which explored simmering desire, “Voices Carry” stood apart as a chilling portrayal of control and fear.

The song’s accompanying music video amplified its unsettling themes, featuring Mann in a controlling relationship where she was constantly stifled by her domineering partner. The climactic moment, where she defiantly belts the chorus in an opera house, transformed the song into an anthem of defiance and personal liberation. “Voices Carry” became ‘Til Tuesday’s signature song, reaching No. 8 on the Billboard Hot 100 and winning the MTV Video Music Award for Best New Artist in 1985. Its hypnotic melody, atmospheric production, and raw emotional intensity cemented its place as one of the most spellbinding songs of its era.

Read More: Top 10 ‘Til Tuesday Songs

# 2 – I Put A Spell On You – Nina Simone

Nina Simone transformed “I Put a Spell on You” into a hypnotic masterpiece, infusing it with an emotional depth and raw intensity that set it apart from Screamin’ Jay Hawkins’ original version. Recorded for her 1965 album I Put a Spell on You, the song showcased Simone’s ability to blend jazz, blues, and soul with classical precision, making it one of the most spellbinding vocal performances of her career. Unlike Hawkins’ theatrical and almost humorous delivery, Simone approached the song with brooding intensity, turning it into an anguished declaration of love and possession.

The song’s lyrical obsession, conveyed through lines like “I love you anyhow, and I don’t care if you don’t want me, I’m yours right now,” positioned it alongside the haunting themes found in “Black Magic Woman” and “Witchy Woman,” but with an even deeper sense of desperation and longing. Where those songs suggested an otherworldly mystique, Simone’s performance was rooted in visceral human emotion, embodying the pain and power struggle in love. Her voice wavered between tenderness and fury, making each lyric feel like both a plea and a command. Compared to “Voices Carry” by ‘Til Tuesday, which also explored themes of control and emotional turmoil, “I Put a Spell on You” carried an undeniable weight, using its restrained yet fiery delivery to captivate listeners.

Upon release, Simone’s version became one of her signature songs, cementing her reputation as a singular voice in American music. The recording, featuring lush orchestration and dramatic piano, bridged the gap between blues and jazz with an almost cinematic quality. The song reached No. 23 on the UK Singles Chart, further solidifying its status as one of the most powerful interpretations of an already iconic track. Decades later, it remained a defining example of Simone’s ability to reimagine a song and make it entirely her own, its spellbinding nature lingering long after the last note faded.

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# 1 – Rhiannon – Fleetwood Mac

Few songs capture the ethereal mystique of Stevie Nicks quite like “Rhiannon.” Released in 1975 on Fleetwood Mac, the band’s self-titled tenth studio album and their first with Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham, the track introduced listeners to the kind of spellbinding songwriting that would become Nicks’ signature. Inspired by a novel reference to a Welsh mythological figure, Nicks crafted lyrics that conjured images of a woman who moves like the wind, elusive and otherworldly. With its haunting melody and hypnotic repetition of “Rhiannon”, the song embodied a sense of magic that aligned seamlessly with the themes of other tracks on this list, such as “I Put a Spell on You” and “Sorcerer.”

The recording featured a lineup that included Nicks on vocals, Buckingham on guitar and backing vocals, Christine McVie on keyboards and backing vocals, John McVie on bass, and Mick Fleetwood on drums. Produced by Fleetwood Mac along with Keith Olsen, the track became one of the defining moments of the album, helping propel Fleetwood Mac to No. 1 on the Billboard 200 and setting the stage for the band’s unparalleled success. Although “Rhiannon” peaked at No. 11 on the Billboard Hot 100, it remained one of Fleetwood Mac’s most enduring songs, becoming a staple of their live performances. Over the years, Nicks transformed the song in concert, extending it into long, spellbinding renditions filled with vocal improvisations and an almost ritualistic intensity.

As the closing song of this list, “Rhiannon” serves as a fitting finale, reaffirming why Stevie Nicks is often regarded as the most spellbinding female artist in rock history. Her presence on this list for the second time is no surprise—her work has consistently embodied the themes of mystery, enchantment, and emotional depth. Whether compared to the haunting allure of “Witchy Woman” or the hypnotic storytelling of “Hypnotized,” “Rhiannon” stands as one of the most mesmerizing tracks ever recorded. It was a song that marked the beginning of Nicks’ legendary career with Fleetwood Mac, and nearly five decades later, its magic remains undiminished.

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Spiritbox, Babymetal, Gojira, Architects and more announced for the most metal WWE videogame soundtrack in years

Gojira, Spiritbox, Babymetal and a host of other modern metal greats have been confirmed for the soundtrack to WWE 2K25.

2K, the publisher of the annual pro-wrestling videogame franchise, unveiled the songs set to appear on the 2025 iteration in an Instagram post on Thursday (February 20). They include Only Pain by Gojira, Suffocate by Knocked Loose featuring Poppy, Hurt You by Spiritbox, Curse by Architects, Ratatata by Babymetal featuring Electric Callboy, and It’s Supposed To Hurt by House Of Protection.

Tracks by Eminem, Jelly Roll, Amyl & The Sniffers and others will also show up in the game, which is set to come out on March 14.

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Rock and metal used to feature prominently in WWE’s annual videogame series, which was known as SmackDown vs Raw until 2011. The likes of Trivium, Three Days Grace and Disturbed featured on early entries, before the series took a more pop- and hip-hop-oriented focus. Last year, the game’s soundtrack was compiled by pop superstar Post Malone.

Gojira, Spiritbox and Knocked Loose x Poppy were all recently nominated for the Grammy Award For Best Metal Performance, along with Judas Priest and Metallica. Gojira ultimately took home the prize, winning for the first time with a rendition of revolutionary song Ah! Ça Ira that they performed with opera singer Marina Viotti at the 2024 Olympic Games opening ceremony. The Frenchmen will headline Bloodstock Open Air in Derbyshire in August.

Spiritbox will release their long-anticipated second album, Tsunami Sea, on March 7. The band are the cover stars on the new issue of Metal Hammer, which you can order online now and have delivered directly to your door. Inside, the band talk all about their new record, as well as their journey so far and collaborating with such stars as Megan Thee Stallion.

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Architects release their new album – The Sky, The Earth & All Between – on February 28. The singles Seeing Red, Curse, Whiplash and Blackhole are now streaming.

The 50 metal albums you need to hear in 2025

2025 is set to be a massive year for metal. Yes, again. With confirmed releases from the likes of Architects, Spiritbox, Killswitch Engage and Machine Head, the year already has some impressive heavy hitters, but add to that rumoured new releases from the likes of Ghost, Babymetal and Sleep Token and we’re looking at a seriously big swing for the metal spectrum. 

But which albums should you be most excited about? We’ve dug through pages and pages of rumours and studio updates from across the internet – as well as just doing it old fashioned and calling artists direct – to find out which albums are coming our way in 2025, and the 50 metal albums you definitely need to hear. 

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1. A.A. Williams – Title TBC (Expected: late 2025)

No release date has been confirmed for A.A. Williams’ third album, but work is underway on it. “I’ll be hiding myself away over the winter months to explore new ways of working,” she told Hammer. “I’m looking forward to challenging myself, to take myself to places I’ve not yet been both musically and lyrically. I can’t wait to see what emerges.”


2. Anthrax – Title TBC (Expected: Early 2025)

Anthrax’s 12th has been much discussed, but often delayed due to constant tours. The band finally hit the studio in 2024 with producer Jay Ruston though, with drummer Charlie Benante telling Hammer one song “revolves around the journey we’ve been on in the band” and has the “same epic feel” as In The End from 2011’s Worship Music.


3. Arch Enemy – Blood Dynasty (Expected: March 28)

Melodeath has been having a resurgence recently, so Arch Enemy’s 12th album is perfectly timed. Early singles Dream Stealer and Liars And Thieves suggest the Swedes are making fine adjustments to their sound rather than overhauling it. Speaking to Hammer, guitarist Michael Amott explained, “Something we did do was throw out the rule book. Let’s be a little more free in the arrangements. As we’ve become better musicians and songwriters, we’ve missed a bit of that chaotic thing that was part of our early style. We wanted to do that a little bit on the album.”

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4. Architects – The Sky, The Earth & All Between (Expected: February 28 2025)

Singles Seeing Red, Curse and Whiplash suggest Architects are going back to basics after the more electronic underpinnings of 2022’s The Classic Symptoms Of A Broken Spirit. But with former Bring Me The Horizon keyboardist Jordan Fish lending some production help there’s likely still surprises in store. Speaking about their November single, drummer Dan Searle hinted: “Whiplash marks the beginning of a new era for Architects.”

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5. Avatar – Title TBC (Expected: Late 2025)

Avatar are eyeing up the end of the year for the follow-up to 2023’s Dance Devil Dance. “Every album is based on wherever we were at that given time,” frontman Johannes Eckerström told Summa Inferno. “We never really worry about what we have already done. We go for the next great thing.”

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Babymetal hinted at a new album to come in 2025 when announcing UK and European tour dates. “In 2025, Babymetal will enter a new era,” they wrote. “The Metalverse will expand and we will travel to a world we have never experienced, with new songs.” When’s it coming? Only the Fox God knows.


7. Backxwash – Only Dust Remains (Expected: March 28)

After concluding a semi-autobiographical, emotionally charged trilogy, trap metal star Backxwash is plotting a new album for March 2025. On Halloween, she posted an update on Instagram: “The record will mark a new direction, and we’re so excited to share more info with you soon!”


8. Black Label Society – Title TBC (Expected: Late 2025)

Zakk Wylde has plenty going on in 2025. Touring with Pantera at the start of the year, he’s then set to hit the road with Sabbath covers band Zakk Sabbath before popping up at the massive farewell show for Ozzy Osbourne/Black Sabbath in July. But he hasn’t forgotten about his regular gig with BLS. “We’ve been recording a batch of stuff while we’re home,” he told YouTuber Scott Lipps, but added the album wouldn’t materialise until “late 2025, maybe early 2026”.


9. Bloodywood – Nu Delhi (Expected: March 21)

Returning with new single Nu Delhi in October, Bloodywood’s mash-up of nu metal and bhangra remains potent as ever. Of album number two, the band’s founder, guitarist and main composer Karan Katiyar told Hammer: “It’s a risky new sound we’re doing, going heavier and darker but also more fun, if you can believe that.” Considering the band also released a Babymetal collab in December, it’s safe to say this one will make massive ripples for the Indian band.

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10. Bury Tomorrow – Will You Haunt Me With That Same Patience (Expected: May 16)

Unlike their metalcore buddies Architects, Bury Tomorrow went heavier with their last album, 2023’s The Seventh Sun – and recent single Villain Arc suggests they’ll go heavier still. “This track was written to highlight the brutal elements of the band,” says vocalist Dani Winter-Bates.

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