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On the road with America’s loudest survivors: Aerosmith, Kiss, and the making of Honkin’ On Bobo

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In 2003 Classic Rock joined Aerosmith and Kiss on their Rocksimus Maximus tour, a 62-date trek that found the two bands – who first played together in 1974 – competing with each other onstage, while off it Aerosmith prepared for the release of their labour-of-love blues album Honkin’ On Bobo.


The members of Aerosmith have had plenty of strange bedfellows in their 33 years together. They’ve kept company with all manner of drugs and drink, hot rods, women and weapons. There have been oddball sponsors, like Dodge Trucks. And unexpected companions like author Elmore Leonard, who took a liking to the group while writing his Get Shorty sequel Be Cool.

So in the great scheme of things, for Aerosmith, hitting the road with Kiss – which they did during the summer of 2003 in the US for a tour expected to last into 2004 – wasn’t a totally unlikely confederation.

“Well, we’ve been talking about going out with Kiss for a while,” says guitarist Joe Perry, who formed Aerosmith in 1970 in Sunapee, New Hampshire, with former Toxic Twin Steven Tyler and their mates, guitarist Brad Whitford, bassist Tom Hamilton and drummer Joey Kramer. “The last, probably, three years it’s come up as a possibility, and it was just one of those things – their schedule and our schedule, and the timing never worked out. This year it just happened to come together.”

It is not, however, the first time Aerosmith and Kiss have shared a stage – although it’s certainly been a long time. All concerned reckon it was 1974, when Kiss did a few shows opening for Aerosmith. And even though they were a couple of years behind the Boston rockers, the New York shock rockers had little trouble getting the headliners’ attention.

“We’d run into them before,” Perry recalls. “I think we ran into them at a party or something, and Tom remembers Ace [Frehley] being drunk in his hotel room and he just said: ‘I’m in this band Kiss…’. Then we were in New York somewhere, and this band went on before us called Kiss.”

Perry laughs as he remembers his first impression of Kiss: “We see these guys, and they’re wearing black leather jackets and all this make-up, and we’re all looking at each other going, ‘Jeez, we spent all this time learning how to play, and these guys are doing all this theatrical stuff. Is this where this is going?’. They knocked the audience out, and we had to follow them. It was pretty funny.”

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But, not surprisingly, when the two bands later shared a bill in Detroit, Perry recalls: “There was a real sense of competition at that show ‘cos they were really hitting their stride then.”

The competition, of course, is past-tense these days, as the two bands divvy up the box-office grosses on the tour. It’s been replaced by mutual admiration, the kind of regard that only survivors of decades of rock’n’roll wars can share.

The cover of Classic Rock 60, featuring Steven Tyler and Gene Simmons

This feature was first published in Classic Rock issue 60 (December 2003) (Image credit: Future)

“Both bands very much like each other,” says Kiss’s famously long-tongued bassist Gene Simmons. “There’s definitely a kinship there. And the truth is, for nearly 30 years Aerosmith has managed, by hook or by crook, to stay alive and thrive. You can only respect that.”

The mutual respect is shared by Perry. But, he acknowledges, when he straps on a guitar the competitive juices still flow a bit. “Yeah, there’s always the X-factor of taking that horsey ride and kicking it a little harder,” he says. “That’s certainly going on. Aerosmith doesn’t lay down for anybody.”

Aerosmith have indeed been standing for nearly three-and-a-half decades – not always tall, but always on their feet, whether staggering or strutting. The group’s story is long and sordid enough to fill a weekend’s worth of Behind The Music episodes, replete with substance abuse, interpersonal politics, temporary band break-ups, business hassles and more. It also has plenty of triumphs, from the 70s parade of hits launched by albums such as Get Your Wings, Toys In The Attic and Rocks, to cleaned-up 80s multi-platinum blockbusters like Pump and Get A Grip, to the chart-topping success of the power ballad I Don’t Want to Miss A Thing (from the Armageddon film soundtrack).

Aerosmith were inducted into the Rock’N’Roll Hall Of Fame in 2001, and received an MTV Icon tribute from that satellite and cable music network. On the heels of the former honour, the band’s most recent studio album, 2001’s Just Push Play, debuted at No.2 on the Billboard chart in the US and added some more platinum to the quintet’s catalogue. It was also promoted with a surreal half-time appearance at that year’s Super Bowl, during which Aerosmith performed with teen pop stars Britney Spears and N*Sync and rapper Nelly.

“It was a goof, and it was a blast,” Tom Hamilton says. “I think a lot of our older fans were terrified we were going to go off and sing Britney Spears songs. But it was just fun. It wasn’t, like, a mall opening or anything, it was the Super Bowl.”

Aerosmith’s has clearly been a charmed and tortured existence – a tale they told in the frank and unsparing 1997 memoir Walk This Way. And Perry says that when all the details are stacked up, he and his bandmates still find themselves periodically shaking their heads over the fact that Aerosmith have survived their trials and tribulations, and that the band members are still rock’n’rolling into the sixth decade of their lives.

“We’re really anxious to see how far we can take it,” Perry (53 in 2003) explains. “It’s always a toss-up between this and finding something else to do in life, ‘cos this is so all-consuming. But I look around and there just aren’t any other bands from my generation doing what we’re doing. That’s why it’s so exciting.”

Bassist Tom Hamilton, 52, adds: “We’re very aware that we’re kind of doing a little pioneering here. Or maybe we’re just emotionally very unstable or something that we have this desperate hunger to do this in public.

“You do get up into your 40s or whatever, you have kids and stuff. Most of the people you meet when you take your kids to school have normal jobs, live regular day-to-day lives; society exerts a lot of pressure for people to live like that. So you have to resist that.

“Every day when I come up into my studio to play or try to do anything musically, I’m aware that in order to do this right, I’ve got to completely go against the norms of society. And I still get a lot of pleasure from that.”

Among the greatest pleasures Aerosmith now enjoy is having a greater degree of control over their music and their career than they ever have before. In the 70s the group were guided by powerful managers Steve Leber and David Krebs. Another strong manager, Tim Collins, got the group back on track in the mid-80s, ushering Perry and Whitford – who had both left the band briefly from 1979-84 – back into the fold, and employing rehabilitation therapies to cure both personal wounds and addictions.

And any number of producers – from Jack Douglas to Bruce Fairbairn to Kevin Shirley – have worked alongside Perry and Tyler in the recording studio. But gradually, Hamilton says, “we figured out that we’re adults now, and that we should be taking control of a lot of things ourselves.”

That happened with Just Push Play, which Perry and Tyler produced – along with fellow Boneyard Boys Mark Hudson and Marti Frederiksen, who also co-wrote some of the songs – and recorded mostly in the basement studio at Perry’s home outside Boston.

“It was great,” Hamilton recalls, “but sometimes I’d feel like I was imposing if I wanted to get a sandwich or something. I think we just worked out a really good way of having the respect of being at somebody’s house and letting it be the fun recording process too.”

Perry, however, says that wasn’t an issue. “The whole house was wide open,” he says. “We’d be pounding on the drums at 10 at night and the guitars would be booming through the house. My wife [Billie, whose picture graces one of his favourite guitars] is an artist. She loved having all the creativity going on there. The kids loved it. It was really exciting.”

And being in control, Perry adds, was the most fun of all. “At the very beginning, we started making it the way we would make any record,” he explains. “When Steven and I made the decision to take over we felt the stuff was strong enough that we didn’t need anybody else to come in. And we got the support of the other guys in the band.”

Hamilton says he suspects that Aerosmith’s label “kinda humoured us in the beginning. I think they said, ‘OK, let’s let the boys go off in their studio and maybe later on we’ll record the real album’. But things went well, and the record company heard the stuff and they loved it, so they gave us their blessing, which was great.”

Aerosmith got similar grace to pursue their latest project, too – a back-to-basics, blues-oriented album, tentatively titled Honkin’ On Bobo and due out in early 2004. Laden with covers, it is being mixed by co-producer Jack Douglas during the North American portion of Aerosmith’s tour with Kiss.

“We feel like the moment is perfect for us to go and start doing things the way we did when we first started, and maybe changed our creative process,” Hamilton says. “One way to do that is to go and just pick out the music that really excited us in the beginning and tap into it again.”

Perry adds that after years of slick, precise record making, he thinks “it was important for us to press the reset button. And part of the way to do that is to go back to your roots and explore them and use them as inspiration to write new stuff, or just go back and reinterpret some of the old stuff.

“It’s a process. Any artist does that; you go back. If you’re a painter you go back and look at some of the old masters that turned you on and got you interested in painting to start with. We felt like it was just time to get into a room and play and make a record of the band playing live.”

Honkin’ On Bobo featuers both originals and covers, the latter category including the Willie Dixon/Muddy Waters staple I’m Ready, Bo Diddley’s Roadrunner, Blind Willie McTell’s Broke Down Engine, Mississippi Fred McDowell’s Back Back Train, the chestnut Baby Please Don’t Go and Peter Green/Fleetwood Mac’s energetic shuffle Stop Messin’ Round – which Perry has sung in concert for several years.

“We must have had about a hundred or so songs that we were looking at,” says Brad Whitford, 51. “We listened to a lot of music and just picked out some ideas. And I think we figured that once we started working on [the covers], in that process we’d start to create some of our own ideas.”

But, Perry adds, the criteria for what would fit on Honkin’ On Bobo remained loose throughout the project: “Sometimes it’s a good lyric or a good melody or something that I felt Steven could really take a vocal and wrap himself around and elevate,” the guitarist explains. “Probably the broadest kind of criteria would be: can you imagine if Aerosmith played this?”

Perry says it also felt like the right time to renew Aerosmith’s association with Douglas, who produced the band’s 70s landmarks albums Toys In The Attic, Get Your Wings and Rocks.

“He’s been around the block with us,” Perry admits, “and so much of working with a producer is bringing in an influence and feeling comfortable that he’ll help make something out of nothing, fill the black space. Sometimes it isn’t about just being a good musician, it’s about a couple of personalities that clash and turning the tape recorder on while it’s going on.

“With Jack it’s great. You can’t bullshit him. He was there from the start. We explored some of our best and most creative years with him. He isn’t afraid to stand toe to toe with any one of us – and that’s hard to find these days.”

And there were clashes, Perry says.

“There were a few things we’d just go head to head on,” he recalls. “I can’t say anything specific now. I just know definitely that there were strong feelings on certain things, and you’ve got to stand your ground.”

One perk of the …Bobo sessions was the chance for Aerosmith to spend an afternoon working with rock’n’roll pioneer Johnnie Johnson, who played piano in Chuck Berry’s band.

Perry says: “I woke up one morning and read in the paper he was in town that day, playing a gig at the House Of Blues. I made a few quick phone calls, and sent a car for him, and before I knew it he was sitting in the basement of my house, behind a piano.

“He sat down and played, and we talked and he told some great stories about playing with Willie Dixon. And the whole time I’m like, ‘Holy shit – that’s fuckin’ Johnnie Johnson sitting in my basement, man!’.”

Perry does lament, however, that the prodigious sessions meant “there’s so many things that we ended up having to leave off.” But, he agrees, that only means that there may be more …Bobo in the offing for the band.

“It made me realise why the Rolling Stones do it so often,” Perry says. “It’s something we really haven’t done that much of, but the Stones have always done that. Their first three records were basically cover records, so they got a lot of it out of their system at the start. But over the years, you look at their records and they’ve always gone back and grabbed a few songs here and there. We never did that. We did a few, but not as regularly as they did. I definitely see us doing more of that from here on out.”

You can count on seeing Aerosmith doing even more touring in the future as well. The group have spent a chunk of every year since 2001 on the road, and Hamilton says it’s those live shows that enable Aerosmith to maintain the following that in turn gives the band the juice to do projects like …Bobo.

“If you can go out on stage and create a good impression, you can count on those people coming back,” he says. “That’s always been one of the truisms of music.

“But I think there’s even more of a spotlight on that now. The whole downloading/piracy issue is hurting people’s ability to make a living by putting out records. So if you want to make a living playing music you’re gonna have to be good live. That was the fact when we first started, really. It’s funny how it came back around.”

This feature was first published in Classic Rock issue 60 (December 2003)

Gary Graff is an award-winning veteran music journalist based in metro Detroit, writing regularly for Billboard, Ultimate Classic Rock, Media News Group, Music Connection, United Stations Radio Networks and others. Graff’s work has also appeared in Rolling Stone, Guitar World, Classic Rock, Revolver, the San Francisco Chronicle, AARP magazine, the Detroit Jewish News, The Forward and others. Graff has co-written and edited books about Bob Seger, Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen. A professional voter for the Grammy Awards and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Graff co-founded the Detroit Music Awards in 1989 and continues as the organisation’s chief producer.

“We never ever wanted a hit, so it was irrelevant”: Quantum Jump didn’t write the longest prog single, but they took the longest word in the dictionary to Number 5 via their 1979 track The Lone Ranger

Rupert Hine
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Jazz-rock band Quantum Jump had no interest in writing hit singles when they formed in 1973. Led by keyboardist and vocalist Rupert Hine – best known for producing Rush, Saga, Kevin Ayers and others – their musical interests lay elsewhere.

Nevertheless, they wound up at Number 5 in 1979 with their irreverent song The Lone Ranger, which is most memorable for featuring the longest word in the English dictionary: Taumata-whaka-tangi-hanga-kuayuwo-tamate-aturi-pukaku-piki-maungahoronuku-pokaiawhen-uaka-tana-tahu-mataku-atanganu-akawa-miki-tora.

It’s the name of a hill in New Zealand and becomes a catchy tongue-twister under Hine’s command. And while The Lone Ranger was by no means the longest prog single of all time – it lasts under three minutes – it endured a proggily difficult route to the top 10.

“We actually recorded it in 1974, as part of our self-titled debut album,” Hine told Prog in 2009. “But thanks to a lot of legal problems, it wasn’t released until 1976.”

Radio One DJ Tony Blackburn made it his single of the week, which boded well, until the BBC banned it just as it reached the top 30. “The Beeb objected to both homosexual and drug references.”

“Drugs? The ‘offending’ line in question was, ‘He smoke pipe of peace with Tonto / Put his mask on back to fronto.’ As for the gay references… let’s face it, The Lone Ranger might have been the first celebrity gay icon! You never saw him with women. So when we said, ‘Maybe masked man he a poofter’ it was justified!”

It took a real-life gay icon to rescue the song. Kenny Everett was one of the biggest names in British entertainment, and when he got his own TV show in 1978, he used The Lone Ranger as its theme tune. Naturally enough, it was re-released the following year, but in a heavily modified form.

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“I completely reconstructed much of it, actually,” said Hine, who died in 2020. “I took the guitar part at the start and put it on the end, but in a backwards form. I also added on Spaghetti Western effects. Second time around, it reached Number 5 and we sold over half a million copies.”

Roger Glover suggested I produce myself. I had no clue what to do. But other acts started to ask me to produce them

That doesn’t mean anyone should regard Quantum Jump as one-hit wonders, he argued. “We never ever wanted a hit, so to us it was all irrelevant.”

And if anyone doubts Hine’s credibility as a prog artist, his experience as a producer speaks volumes for him. But as he told Prog in 2011, he’d never planned to land such a role.

“I signed to Purple Records, and I had Deep Purple bassist Roger Glover produce my first album, Pick Up A Bone [1971]. As he wasn’t available to do the next one, [Unfinished Picture, two years later], Roger suggested I produce myself. To be honest, I had no clue what to do. But other acts started to ask me to produce them.”

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He recalled the positive experience of Kevin Ayers’ 1974 LP The Confessions Of Dr Dream And Other Stories: “I was a big fan of Kevin’s – I especially loved the original Soft Machine line-up. He was a thorough delight. But I never got the chance of collaborating with him again, because he went off in another musical direction.”

Hine also enjoyed working with Genesis co-founder Anthony Phillips on 1977’s Wise After The Event and 1978’s Sides. “We had the same management, which is how I got involved. I tried to get Anthony a sound that would provide a wider audience. I’m not sure I succeeded; but he was wonderful to work with.”

Rush were an absolute joy – so much talent

While he struggled to find common ground with Dave Greenslade for 1976’s Cactus Choir, Hine found musical soulmates in Saga. “What they wanted was the intensity and strangeness I got on my 1981 album, Immunity, which they loved. We hit the jackpot with Worlds Apart, their biggest selling album in America, and then I did Heads Or Tales two years later.”

Another fan of Immunity – which included guest appearances by Phil Collins, Marianne Faithfull and others – was Rush drummer Neil Peart, who targeted Hine for a production role with the Canadian giants. “But it took until Presto [1989] for it to happen, and then I did Roll The Bones [1991],” Hine remembered. “They were an absolute joy – so much talent.”

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Not only is one-time online news editor Martin an established rock journalist and drummer, but he’s also penned several books on music history, including SAHB Story: The Tale of the Sensational Alex Harvey Band, a band he once managed, and the best-selling Apollo Memories about the history of the legendary and infamous Glasgow Apollo. Martin has written for Classic Rock and Prog and at one time had written more articles for Louder than anyone else (we think he’s second now). He’s appeared on TV and when not delving intro all things music, can be found travelling along the UK’s vast canal network.

“Eddie Van Halen literally ran away from me!” Yngwie Malmsteen’s wild tales of Lemmy, Ronnie James Dio, Metallica and more

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For more than 40 years, Yngwie Malmsteen has stood as rock’s supreme neoclassical shredder. In that time – since bursting onto the scene with Steeler and Alcatrazz in the early 1980s, before beginning his now-22-album-strong solo career – the Swedish guitarist has crossed paths with virtually every major rock and metal figure of the era.

“I know them all,” says Malmsteen, who recently celebrated his 40th anniversary as a solo artist with the two CD+DVD concert recording Tokyo Live. In fact, he adds, “it would be quicker for me to mention to you the people I haven’t met and hung out with”.

Malmsteen’s rock-star address book began filling up literally the first night he touched down in America, when his new bandmates in Steeler whisked him straight to the legendary Rainbow Bar & Grill in Los Angeles. Within hours the newcomer was chatting away with one of his idols, Ronnie James Dio, kicking off what would become four decades of “happy moods” (as he puts it diplomatically) with music’s elite.

Chatting to Classic Rock, he runs us through some of the famous figures he’s rubbed shoulders with – and, in one case, rubbed the wrong way – over the years.

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Ritchie Blackmore

I first met Ritchie Blackmore at the Rainbow, too, believe it or not. I was in Alcatrazz at the time, and I saw him sitting there in a booth by himself. I was just a little boisterous kid then, nineteen years old. I went up to him and said: “Hey man, I’m playing tonight. I have your old singer [Graham Bonnet] in my band.” And he’s looking at me like I probably would look at somebody coming up to me now, like: “Yeah. Can’t you see I’m having some food here?”

About a year and a half later I ended up getting the same guitar tech as Ritchie had back in the day. He told me: “Hey, Ritchie’s playing Long Beach Arena with Deep Purple.” So I went and saw the show. Then I went backstage and asked somebody if I could say hi to Ritchie. They laughed and said: “No one says hi to Ritchie.”

So I started walking back to my car, and this guy started running after me with a camera, yelling, “Hey, hey, hey, Ritchie wants to see you! Ritchie wants to see you! Can you believe this?” Like it was a big deal. But he takes me to see him, and I walk into Ritchie’s dressing room and he’s lying on the table in his black trench coat – lying like Burt Reynolds, up on his elbow. He’s looking at me, trying to intimidate me. I said: “Hey, dude, what’s going on?” and I took his soccer ball that was in the room and started bouncing it around. He asked: “You play soccer?”

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Ritchie Blackmore and Yngwie Malmsteen

Ritchie Blackmore and Yngwie Malmsteen backstage at the Long Beach Arena in Long Beach Ca USA, February 1985 (Image credit: George Bodnar Archive/IconicPix)

All of a sudden he was like a little kid. We hung out the entire night, just talked about music. He gave me one of his bracelets and said: “This is good if you get bad tendonitis,” because I had some tendonitis in my hand. He told me all the tricks about eating bananas and drinking Gatorade and everything. We had the greatest time.

A couple years later, he’s playing again. I come to see him and he didn’t want to know me. But it’s okay. People have to be in the mood. I mean, people come up to me and I don’t feel like it sometimes, too. So I’m not knocking him. Ritchie is awesome. I love him.


Lemmy

Have I ever met Lemmy? Let me tell you something. Me and Lemmy were musically very different, but as people we would hang out. The very first time – I’m trying to remember – it was probably at a little bar on Wardour Street [in London’s Soho] that I used to go to. He was always there. Then when he moved to America, I hung out with him there too, but not as much as I did in England. We’d talk about history and stuff like that. Things that other people didn’t do.

Over the years we did gigs together, and I’ve got some funny pictures with him, especially back in the days when everybody was partying and stuff. But it’s hard to pick out just one story – it was a fuzzy period, so to speak. In fact I found a picture just the other day of me and him and we’re… how should one say… in a “happy mood.”


Ronnie James Dio

I had just landed in America, and the guys in Steeler said: “Hey, let’s go to the Rainbow.” I said: “Where’s that?” This was 1982, so it was at, like, the height of the scene. When I was twelve years old I saw my very first concert. It was at the Stockholm Concert Hall, which is a classical theatre. For some reason they put a rock band there, and it was Ritchie Blackmore’s Rainbow. And it was Ronnie Dio, Ritchie Blackmore, Cozy Powell… so it was pretty surreal for me to see Ronnie there at the Rainbow.

We started talking and everything, and he was very friendly. A very nice guy. We became friends right there and then. Later on we ended up living next to each other. There was an Indian restaurant nearby, called Star Of India, that we used to sit in. I recorded with him, I have hundreds of pictures of me and him playing on stage, all that stuff. We were very close. Me and Ronnie hung out a lot. Probably the most out of all those people.


Phil Mogg

I was gigging around with Steeler, and Phil Mogg from UFO came to a show. He said: “I’m putting UFO back together, come to my house tomorrow.” I was like: “Wow, I’m going to get to play with UFO!” I was so excited.

Next morning, I get a call from some people in the Alcatrazz camp – although it wasn’t called Alcatrazz yet. They didn’t have songs, they didn’t have anything. They just had an idea to put together a band with Graham Bonnet as the singer. I went and met with them that day, and I had to go from there right to Phil Mogg’s house. Phil Mogg, super-nice guy, but he wasn’t well together at the time.

As much I love UFO, I called the Alcatrazz guys from Phil’s house and said: “Okay, I’ll join your thing. But two conditions: I write the songs, and we’ll get a new drummer.” I think joining UFO would’ve been a good thing, but it is what it is. I did what I did, and I don’t regret anything. Everything is a learning curve.


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The Alcatrazz thing, I wouldn’t say it was really big, but we had a lot of money behind us. I found out later it was all embezzled money, but we had first class airplane tickets, limos, everything. And we’d go up to San Francisco all the time, take a picture on Alcatraz Island, things like that.

One time when we were there I went out on the scene, and it was all the bands like Exodus and Armored Saint, and they were talking about a new band, Metallica. This was 1983, before they had made it. But I ended up at Metallica’s place, which was a little house, and we were jamming, and everybody was really, really drunk.

A few times after that I would bump into them at the Rainbow when they were in LA. They would come back to my house and we’d listen to Deep Purple, and they would bang their head on the floor to the music. Plus, you know, I’m Swedish, and Lars [Ulrich] is Danish. It’s the same language, just a different accent, basically. Different dialect. So we had that.

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Brian May

I was playing guitar at Musikmesse Frankfurt, which is like the European equivalent of the NAMM show. I was in this little cubicle at one of the stands, just playing, when I kept hearing somebody in the back of the room going: “Who the fack? What the fack?” He was freaking out about my guitar playing.

I didn’t know who it was at first. Then later I realised it was Brian May from Queen! He came up to me afterward and we became really friendly. We went to dinner and everything. He was super-nice, so I spent a lot of time with him. We hung out a few times in England, too.


David Lee Roth

In 1985 I did a headline tour of the United States, and I had an opening band called Talas, which was Billy Sheehan’s band. Dave Roth used to come to the shows, and I knew him because I used to hang with him at the Troubadour. We would party together. He was a cool guy. He would come to the shows, and he always had advice. I remember he would tell me: “I’ve been reading so many interviews, you’re doing it all wrong.” He would say: “Don’t talk like that. Don’t say these things.” I said: “Okay, thank you for the advice.”

He’s funny as shit, that guy. He’s a motormouth. Anyway, it was pretty clear at this time that he was either out of Van Halen or just about out. And I suppose I was one of the hottest guys, so he was eyeing me out for that. He wasn’t blatant about it, but he was definitely wanting to see if I wanted to do it.


Angus Young and Brian Johnson

I did four months opening for AC/DC [on 1985’s Fly On The Wall tour]. Me and Angus and Brian became really close, hanging out all the time. Brian’s a car guy like me, and back then I was driving a Jaguar E-Type with a V12 engine, and he had a Jaguar E-Type with a six-cylinder engine. I would say: “I’ve got twelve.” And he’d go, “Well, this one’s the original one…”

Angus, we’d just sit and jam on stuff. I took one of my guitars and said: “Hey, Angus, I got a song idea for you – the chords A, C, D, C.” And I played this progression, and he goes: “Well I already did that.” We were always joking around like that. Super-nice people. Love them.


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Gene Simmons

I remember one time I came to Stockholm and I was staying in the same hotel as Kiss. Gene was sitting in the bar, even though he wasn’t drinking. He goes: “What are you doing?” I said: “I just came back from Prague. I was recording with the Symphony Orchestra.” He goes: “Yeah, you can do that.” Like: “You can do that, but we can’t, because we’re just doing this for the money,” kind of thing. He didn’t say it like that, but he’s a very, very clever guy. I enjoy talking with him a lot.

Actually, I remember back in 1982, before I went to America, someone must have played Kiss my cassette. They called me [after Ace Frehley left the band], and the guy on the phone was like: “You’re hot! You’re hot!” I’m like:, “What? Hot?” Then: “We heard you. We wanna get you in. But we need to know one thing: are you six foot tall?” Now, I’m six-three, but I didn’t know how to say that in feet. So I said I was one metre, ninety-two centimetres. They never called back. It was very bizarre.


Eddie Van Halen (almost)

I never said a bad word about him. I never will. Because I think he was amazing. But I used to know a guy that worked in the grocery store where Eddie would shop, and the guy would ask him: “Hey, what do you think about Yngwie Malmsteen, the new Swedish kid?” And Eddie would say: “I don’t know who that is.”

Meanwhile, Dave Roth told me that Eddie would have his ghetto blaster, playing my shit on it all day long. There’s one time I remember where I was nominated for a Grammy, and I go to the show – I had my tux on and everything – and I see Eddie there. I’m waving at him, trying to get his attention, and he sees me… and he runs away. He literally ran away!

I have an even more incredible story. I was doing a concert festival in Holland, and Van Halen was headlining. I’m like: “Great, I finally get to meet Eddie and give him my concerto”. Because I’m proud of my concerto, you know? But I find out they cancelled the show. They said Alex Van Halen had broken his little finger or something.

And then I hear that the promoter got a phone call from Eddie himself, who said: “Just to let you know, if Yngwie Malmsteen is playing, I’m not playing. And I will never fucking play the same stage as Yngwie Malmsteen.” I’m like: “What?” He obviously felt threatened. Which is crazy to me. You’re fucking Eddie Van Halen! Nobody could threaten you!

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Rich is the co-author of the best-selling Nöthin’ But a Good Time: The Uncensored History of the ’80s Hard Rock Explosion. He is also a recording and performing musician, and a former editor of Guitar World magazine and executive editor of Guitar Aficionado magazine. He has authored several additional books, among them Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck, the companion to the documentary of the same name.

On the road with America’s loudest survivors: Aerosmith, Kiss, and the making of Honkin’ For Bobo

Gene Simmons, Joe Perry and Paul Stanley onstage
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In 2003 Classic Rock joined Aerosmith and Kiss on their Rocksimus Maximus tour, a 62-date trek that found the two bands – who first played together in 1974 – competing with each other onstage, while off it Aerosmith prepared for the release of their labour-of-love blues album Honkin’ For Bobo.


The members of Aerosmith have had plenty of strange bedfellows in their 33 years together. They’ve kept company with all manner of drugs and drink, hot rods, women and weapons. There have been oddball sponsors, like Dodge Trucks. And unexpected companions like author Elmore Leonard, who took a liking to the group while writing his Get Shorty sequel Be Cool.

So in the great scheme of things, for Aerosmith, hitting the road with Kiss – which they did during the summer of 2003 in the US for a tour expected to last into 2004 – wasn’t a totally unlikely confederation.

“Well, we’ve been talking about going out with Kiss for a while,” says guitarist Joe Perry, who formed Aerosmith in 1970 in Sunapee, New Hampshire, with former Toxic Twin Steven Tyler and their mates, guitarist Brad Whitford, bassist Tom Hamilton and drummer Joey Kramer. “The last, probably, three years it’s come up as a possibility, and it was just one of those things – their schedule and our schedule, and the timing never worked out. This year it just happened to come together.”

It is not, however, the first time Aerosmith and Kiss have shared a stage – although it’s certainly been a long time. All concerned reckon it was 1974, when Kiss did a few shows opening for Aerosmith. And even though they were a couple of years behind the Boston rockers, the New York shock rockers had little trouble getting the headliners’ attention.

“We’d run into them before,” Perry recalls. “I think we ran into them at a party or something, and Tom remembers Ace [Frehley] being drunk in his hotel room and he just said: ‘I’m in this band Kiss…’. Then we were in New York somewhere, and this band went on before us called Kiss.”

Perry laughs as he remembers his first impression of Kiss: “We see these guys, and they’re wearing black leather jackets and all this make-up, and we’re all looking at each other going, ‘Jeez, we spent all this time learning how to play, and these guys are doing all this theatrical stuff. Is this where this is going?’. They knocked the audience out, and we had to follow them. It was pretty funny.”

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But, not surprisingly, when the two bands later shared a bill in Detroit, Perry recalls: “There was a real sense of competition at that show ‘cos they were really hitting their stride then.”

The competition, of course, is past-tense these days, as the two bands divvy up the box-office grosses on the tour. It’s been replaced by mutual admiration, the kind of regard that only survivors of decades of rock’n’roll wars can share.

The cover of Classic Rock 60, featuring Steven Tyler and Gene Simmons

This feature was first published in Classic Rock issue 60 (December 2003) (Image credit: Future)

“Both bands very much like each other,” says Kiss’s famously long-tongued bassist Gene Simmons. “There’s definitely a kinship there. And the truth is, for nearly 30 years Aerosmith has managed, by hook or by crook, to stay alive and thrive. You can only respect that.”

The mutual respect is shared by Perry. But, he acknowledges, when he straps on a guitar the competitive juices still flow a bit. “Yeah, there’s always the X-factor of taking that horsey ride and kicking it a little harder,” he says. “That’s certainly going on. Aerosmith doesn’t lay down for anybody.”

Aerosmith have indeed been standing for nearly three-and-a-half decades – not always tall, but always on their feet, whether staggering or strutting. The group’s story is long and sordid enough to fill a weekend’s worth of Behind The Music episodes, replete with substance abuse, interpersonal politics, temporary band break-ups, business hassles and more. It also has plenty of triumphs, from the 70s parade of hits launched by albums such as Get Your Wings, Toys In The Attic and Rocks, to cleaned-up 80s multi-platinum blockbusters like Pump and Get A Grip, to the chart-topping success of the power ballad I Don’t Want to Miss A Thing (from the Armageddon film soundtrack).

Aerosmith were inducted into the Rock’N’Roll Hall Of Fame in 2001, and received an MTV Icon tribute from that satellite and cable music network. On the heels of the former honour, the band’s most recent studio album, 2001’s Just Push Play, debuted at No.2 on the Billboard chart in the US and added some more platinum to the quintet’s catalogue. It was also promoted with a surreal half-time appearance at that year’s Super Bowl, during which Aerosmith performed with teen pop stars Britney Spears and N*Sync and rapper Nelly.

“It was a goof, and it was a blast,” Tom Hamilton says. “I think a lot of our older fans were terrified we were going to go off and sing Britney Spears songs. But it was just fun. It wasn’t, like, a mall opening or anything, it was the Super Bowl.”

Aerosmith’s has clearly been a charmed and tortured existence – a tale they told in the frank and unsparing 1997 memoir Walk This Way. And Perry says that when all the details are stacked up, he and his bandmates still find themselves periodically shaking their heads over the fact that Aerosmith have survived their trials and tribulations, and that the band members are still rock’n’rolling into the sixth decade of their lives.

“We’re really anxious to see how far we can take it,” Perry (53 in 2003) explains. “It’s always a toss-up between this and finding something else to do in life, ‘cos this is so all-consuming. But I look around and there just aren’t any other bands from my generation doing what we’re doing. That’s why it’s so exciting.”

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Bassist Tom Hamilton, 52, adds: “We’re very aware that we’re kind of doing a little pioneering here. Or maybe we’re just emotionally very unstable or something that we have this desperate hunger to do this in public.

“You do get up into your 40s or whatever, you have kids and stuff. Most of the people you meet when you take your kids to school have normal jobs, live regular day-to-day lives; society exerts a lot of pressure for people to live like that. So you have to resist that.

“Every day when I come up into my studio to play or try to do anything musically, I’m aware that in order to do this right, I’ve got to completely go against the norms of society. And I still get a lot of pleasure from that.”

Among the greatest pleasures Aerosmith now enjoy is having a greater degree of control over their music and their career than they ever have before. In the 70s the group were guided by powerful managers Steve Leber and David Krebs. Another strong manager, Tim Collins, got the group back on track in the mid-80s, ushering Perry and Whitford – who had both left the band briefly from 1979-84 – back into the fold, and employing rehabilitation therapies to cure both personal wounds and addictions.

And any number of producers – from Jack Douglas to Bruce Fairbairn to Kevin Shirley – have worked alongside Perry and Tyler in the recording studio. But gradually, Hamilton says, “we figured out that we’re adults now, and that we should be taking control of a lot of things ourselves.”

That happened with Just Push Play, which Perry and Tyler produced – along with fellow Boneyard Boys Mark Hudson and Marti Frederiksen, who also co-wrote some of the songs – and recorded mostly in the basement studio at Perry’s home outside Boston.

“It was great,” Hamilton recalls, “but sometimes I’d feel like I was imposing if I wanted to get a sandwich or something. I think we just worked out a really good way of having the respect of being at somebody’s house and letting it be the fun recording process too.”

Perry, however, says that wasn’t an issue. “The whole house was wide open,” he says. “We’d be pounding on the drums at 10 at night and the guitars would be booming through the house. My wife [Billie, whose picture graces one of his favourite guitars] is an artist. She loved having all the creativity going on there. The kids loved it. It was really exciting.”

And being in control, Perry adds, was the most fun of all. “At the very beginning, we started making it the way we would make any record,” he explains. “When Steven and I made the decision to take over we felt the stuff was strong enough that we didn’t need anybody else to come in. And we got the support of the other guys in the band.”

Hamilton says he suspects that Aerosmith’s label “kinda humoured us in the beginning. I think they said, ‘OK, let’s let the boys go off in their studio and maybe later on we’ll record the real album’. But things went well, and the record company heard the stuff and they loved it, so they gave us their blessing, which was great.”

Aerosmith got similar grace to pursue their latest project, too – a back-to-basics, blues-oriented album, tentatively titled Honkin’ On Bobo and due out in early 2004. Laden with covers, it is being mixed by co-producer Jack Douglas during the North American portion of Aerosmith’s tour with Kiss.

“We feel like the moment is perfect for us to go and start doing things the way we did when we first started, and maybe changed our creative process,” Hamilton says. “One way to do that is to go and just pick out the music that really excited us in the beginning and tap into it again.”

Perry adds that after years of slick, precise record making, he thinks “it was important for us to press the reset button. And part of the way to do that is to go back to your roots and explore them and use them as inspiration to write new stuff, or just go back and reinterpret some of the old stuff.

“It’s a process. Any artist does that; you go back. If you’re a painter you go back and look at some of the old masters that turned you on and got you interested in painting to start with. We felt like it was just time to get into a room and play and make a record of the band playing live.”

Honkin’ On Bobo featuers both originals and covers, the latter category including the Willie Dixon/Muddy Waters staple I’m Ready, Bo Diddley’s Roadrunner, Blind Willie McTell’s Broke Down Engine, Mississippi Fred McDowell’s Back Back Train, the chestnut Baby Please Don’t Go and Peter Green/Fleetwood Mac’s energetic shuffle Stop Messin’ Round – which Perry has sung in concert for several years.

“We must have had about a hundred or so songs that we were looking at,” says Brad Whitford, 51. “We listened to a lot of music and just picked out some ideas. And I think we figured that once we started working on [the covers], in that process we’d start to create some of our own ideas.”

But, Perry adds, the criteria for what would fit on Honkin’ On Bobo remained loose throughout the project: “Sometimes it’s a good lyric or a good melody or something that I felt Steven could really take a vocal and wrap himself around and elevate,” the guitarist explains. “Probably the broadest kind of criteria would be: can you imagine if Aerosmith played this?”

Perry says it also felt like the right time to renew Aerosmith’s association with Douglas, who produced the band’s 70s landmarks albums Toys In The Attic, Get Your Wings and Rocks.

“He’s been around the block with us,” Perry admits, “and so much of working with a producer is bringing in an influence and feeling comfortable that he’ll help make something out of nothing, fill the black space. Sometimes it isn’t about just being a good musician, it’s about a couple of personalities that clash and turning the tape recorder on while it’s going on.

“With Jack it’s great. You can’t bullshit him. He was there from the start. We explored some of our best and most creative years with him. He isn’t afraid to stand toe to toe with any one of us – and that’s hard to find these days.”

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And there were clashes, Perry says.

“There were a few things we’d just go head to head on,” he recalls. “I can’t say anything specific now. I just know definitely that there were strong feelings on certain things, and you’ve got to stand your ground.”

One perk of the …Bobo sessions was the chance for Aerosmith to spend an afternoon working with rock’n’roll pioneer Johnnie Johnson, who played piano in Chuck Berry’s band.

Perry says: “I woke up one morning and read in the paper he was in town that day, playing a gig at the House Of Blues. I made a few quick phone calls, and sent a car for him, and before I knew it he was sitting in the basement of my house, behind a piano.

“He sat down and played, and we talked and he told some great stories about playing with Willie Dixon. And the whole time I’m like, ‘Holy shit – that’s fuckin’ Johnnie Johnson sitting in my basement, man!’.”

Perry does lament, however, that the prodigious sessions meant “there’s so many things that we ended up having to leave off.” But, he agrees, that only means that there may be more …Bobo in the offing for the band.

“It made me realise why the Rolling Stones do it so often,” Perry says. “It’s something we really haven’t done that much of, but the Stones have always done that. Their first three records were basically cover records, so they got a lot of it out of their system at the start. But over the years, you look at their records and they’ve always gone back and grabbed a few songs here and there. We never did that. We did a few, but not as regularly as they did. I definitely see us doing more of that from here on out.”

You can count on seeing Aerosmith doing even more touring in the future as well. The group have spent a chunk of every year since 2001 on the road, and Hamilton says it’s those live shows that enable Aerosmith to maintain the following that in turn gives the band the juice to do projects like …Bobo.

“If you can go out on stage and create a good impression, you can count on those people coming back,” he says. “That’s always been one of the truisms of music.

“But I think there’s even more of a spotlight on that now. The whole downloading/piracy issue is hurting people’s ability to make a living by putting out records. So if you want to make a living playing music you’re gonna have to be good live. That was the fact when we first started, really. It’s funny how it came back around.”

This feature was first published in Classic Rock issue 60 (December 2003)

Gary Graff is an award-winning veteran music journalist based in metro Detroit, writing regularly for Billboard, Ultimate Classic Rock, Media News Group, Music Connection, United Stations Radio Networks and others. Graff’s work has also appeared in Rolling Stone, Guitar World, Classic Rock, Revolver, the San Francisco Chronicle, AARP magazine, the Detroit Jewish News, The Forward and others. Graff has co-written and edited books about Bob Seger, Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen. A professional voter for the Grammy Awards and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Graff co-founded the Detroit Music Awards in 1989 and continues as the organisation’s chief producer.

A beginner’s guide to 70s AOR in 10 essential albums

A collage of artwork from 10 great 70s AOR albums
Boston in 1976: (L-R) Brad Delp, Tom Scholz, Sib Hashian, Fran Sheehan, Barry Goudreau (Image credit: Various record labels)

AOR, or ‘Album/Adult Orientated Rock’ to use its disputed full titles, is also known as melodic or soft rock, even hair metal, and has developed several spin-off strands. Arguably the greatest AOR group of them all were (and still are) Journey, who said goodbye to their jazz-rock roots to seduce the North American airwaves with a peerless combination of lighter-waving ballads and raunch during the 1970s. By its very nature, the very best melodic rock is based upon accessible hooklines, sturdy, riff-driven musicianship and an obligatory high-pitched, liquid-larynxed singer.

The fine balance between hard rock, wimpdom and more progressive tendencies has always made AOR extremely difficult to define. Kansas, Styx and Magnum, for instance, are regarded by purists as pomp rock entities. Others would regard Foreigner or Toto as either balls-out rockers (certainly during the early stages of their careers), or the super-smooth, chart-busting balladers that they both later became. Yet all of these five bands are perfectly comfortable as pewmates in the broad church that is the melodic rock scene.

Boundaries blurred further still during the 1980s and 1990s. Groups such as Harem Scarem and Winger took the original AOR blueprint and added additional chunks of rhythm (check out the former’s Mood Swings) or musical suss (Winger’s Pull was just too demanding for those weaned upon the group’s more generic, earlier releases). Bon Jovi, Def Leppard and Europe all went on to become genre giants, their appeal spilling over into the more mainstream markets.

Yet Slippery When Wet, Hysteria and The Final Countdown are still regarded as cornerstones of AOR history. More often than not, the term is used as little more than a convenient, generic label. Belatedly, power pop influences have been added to create the style’s ‘nubreed’. How to differentiate? Well, if a song is pink and fluffy in feel, with ridiculously overblown keyboards and cheesy lyrics about a doomed love affair, then the chances are that it’s AOR.

But let’s rewind. These records were all released between 1970 and the end of the decade. Most of the best AOR albums were actually made during the 80s – including standards from Bryan Adams (Reckless), Rick Springfield (Living In Oz), REO Speedwagon (Hi Infidelity), Heart (Heart) and Michael Bolton (Everybody’s Crazy). Foreigner’s hit-strewn 4 and Eye Of The Tiger by Survivor wouldn’t hit the racks until later, thus eliminating them. So, if a particular exclusion puzzles you, check its release date before writing in!

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Previously unseen pro-shot footage of Captain Beefheart performing live in Paris in 1972 has surfaced online

Captain Beefheart onstage
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Previously unseen footage of the legendary Captain Beefheart performing in Paris has been posted online.

The footage, which was shot at the famed Bataclan nightclub on April 15, 1972, on the European leg of Beefheart’s Spotlight Kid tour, was originally filmed for the French TV show POP2.

Although a version of Click Clack was broadcast on POP2 and audio of the complete, seven-song set has circulated among collectors, no other footage from the show was known to exist. However, the French Radio and TV archive INA (Institut National de L’audiovisuel) has now published a version of Abba Zaba filmed at the same show.

The other songs performed at the Bataclan were Hair Pie Bake III, Alice in Blunderland, My Human Gets Me Blues, I’m Gonna Booglarize You Baby and Golden Birdies.

“My first date is going to be in Egypt,” Beefheart told the NME ahead of the tour. “I’m gonna have a belly dancer, a glass blower and a ballerina at the Albert Hall.

“I have red silk suits from China I wear on stage. I like to wear silk. I have silk suits, silk shirts, silk socks. Air, you know. I’ve done a song for my next album Brown Star called Shiny Around The Edges With A Breathing Top. It’s a beautiful song, it’s like a cheer. It’s a good cheer though, not a bad cheer. You’ll like this next album.”

Other acts to have appeared on POP2, which was presented by Patrice Blanc-Francard and ran for 28 episodes between 1970 and 1973, included The Moody Blues, Grateful Dead, The Who, Jethro Tull, Gong, Frank Zappa, Soft Machine, Alice Cooper, Mott The Hopple and – perhaps most famously – Genesis, whose Bataclan performance was widely circulated recently after the original footage was rescanned in 4K.

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Dave Mason Cancels All Tour Dates Following Health Issues

Dave Mason Cancels All Tour Dates Following Health Issues

Dave Mason has canceled all of his 2025 tour dates due to his ongoing health issues.

The singer-songwriter had hoped to get back on the road this year after he was forced to postpone dates in September 2024 when an “urgent heart condition” during a routine checkup sent him to a hospital.

Mason — a former member of Traffic and Fleetwood Mac whose solo career yielded the No. 12 hit “We Just Disagree” in 1977 — had planned to make up the canceled 2024 dates this past spring and in the summer. He’s now recovering from a “severe infection” contracted in March.

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“With deep regret, I must cancel all tour dates for 2025 due to ongoing health issues stemming from the infection I had in March,” Mason said in a statement. “I’m incredibly grateful to my team of doctors—this has been challenging territory, to say the least.

“A heartfelt thank you to all the fans, and to my family, band, agents and the venues who’ve waited patiently and supported me throughout this journey. Your kind messages have lifted my spirits more than words can express. Recovery is a long road. My love for you all runs deep.”

When Did Dave Mason Last Play a Concert?

Mason last played a concert a month before the discovery of his heart issue in September 2024.

At that Aug. 18, 2024, show, in Plainfield, Indiana, he performed the Traffic songs “The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys” and “Dear Mr. Fantasy,” Blind Faith‘s “Can’t Find My Way Home” and a cover of Bob Dylan‘s “All Along the Watchtower.”

The Rock & Roll Hall of Famer‘s memoir, Only You Know & I Know, was released just weeks before the 2024 tour cancellations. His most recent album, A Shade of Blues, was released earlier this year.

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Guns N’ Roses Just Did Something Live for First Time in 30+ Years

Guns N’ Roses Just Did Something Live for the First Time in 30+ Years

Guns N’ Roses‘ Monday show in Istanbul, Turkey, featured two major set list changes — one of them being a choice they haven’t made in over 30 years.

The rockers performed at the BJK Tupras Stadyumu in the Besiktas district of Istanbul on their ongoing tour, titled Because What You Want & What You Get Are Two Completely Different Things. The show was unique for its inclusion of the Appetite for Destruction track “Out Ta Get Me,” which they performed for the first time since 2017.

You can watch fan-shot video of the partial performance below.

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Monday’s performance was also unique for what it didn’t have. According to setlist.fm, Guns N’ Roses opted out of playing “It’s So Easy,” a set list staple and longtime concert opener, for the first time since 1993.

It’s a fairly radical move for Guns N’ Roses, who have maintained a consistent core set list since Axl Rose, Slash and Duff McKagan first reunited in 2016. They opened all of their post-reunion shows with “It’s So Easy” until 2025, when they reverted to “Welcome to the Jungle” as their show opener.

Guns N’ Roses’ 2025 Tour Has Featured Several Set List Surprises

“Out Ta Get Me” isn’t the only curveball Guns N’ Roses have thrown on their current tour, which began on May 1 in Incheon, South Korea. Last week in Abu Dhabi, they live-debuted their cover of the New York Dolls‘ “Human Being,” which they included on their 1993 covers album “The Spaghetti Incident?” They also performed the G N’ R Lies classic “Used to Love Her” for the first time since 2018.

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The band’s May 23 show in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, also marked their first concert without a single Chinese Democracy song since 1993. And on the second night of their tour in Yokohama, Japan, they debuted a cover of Thin Lizzy‘s “Thunder and Lightning.”

Guns N’ Roses’ current tour runs across Europe throughout June and July, concluding on July 31 at Wacken Open Air in Germany. They have not yet announced North American dates.

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“Wild Ones isn’t just a song, it’s a statement”: Watch the first footage of the reunited Alice Cooper Band recording together

Alice Cooper Band in 2025
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Footage of the reunited Alice Cooper Band working together on their first album in more than half a century has emerged in the video for the band’s new single, Wild Ones.

The footage, which was shot at Carriage House Studios in Stamford, CT, finds Cooper and guitarist Michael Bruce, bassist Dennis Dunaway and drummer Neil Smith running through the new single, which includes the lyrics “Revving up our engines, sharpening our claws / ‘Cause baby when you’re hungry, the jungle is the law”, and a motif at the one-minute mark that’s surely a hat-tip to Cooper’s 1971 classic Under My Wheels.

“Inspired by the iconic 1953 film The Wild One starring Marlon Brando, the track captures the same defiant spirit that once shocked middle America and defined a generation,” reads a statement accompanying the song’s release, “With snarling guitars, pounding drums, and Alice’s unmistakable snarl front and centre, Wild Ones isn’t just a song, it’s a statement.”

The song is the second to emerge from new album The Revenge Of Alice Cooper, following the release of Black Mamba in April. The album is produced by Bob Ezrin, who worked on the band’s classic early 70s albums Love It to Death, Killer, School’s Out and Billion Dollar Babies, and is the band’s first since 1973’s Muscle of Love. It’ll arrive via earMusic on July 25.

“This album is a celebration of friendship, nostalgia, and the timeless sound that solidified Alice Cooper as a rock icon,” say the band in a statement. “Fans can expect a powerful and nostalgic experience that bridges the gap between the band’s storied past and their vibrant present.”

Alice Cooper (the man, not the band) embarks on the European of his Too Close For Comfort solo tour early next month, and hooks up with Judas Priest in September for a run of co-headline dates in the US. Full dates below.

Alice Cooper: Too Close For Comfort 2025 tour

Jul 05: Hannover Stadium, Germany *
Jul 08: Bologna Sequoie Music Park, Italy
Jul 11: Athens Rockwave Festival 2025, Greece
Jul 13: Mogilovo Midalidare Rock in the Wine Valley, Bulgaria
Jul 19: Spalt Strandbad Enderndorf, Germany
Jul 22: Cardiff Utilita Arena, UK
Jul 23: Edinburgh Playhouse, UK
Jul 25: London The O2, UK ∞
Jul 26: Mönchengladbach SparkassenPark, Germany
Jul 28: Amsterdam AFAS Live, Netherlands
Jul 30: Schaffhausen Stars in Town 2025, Switzerland

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Aug 15: Philadelphia Citizens Bank Park, PA
Aug 19: Salem Salem Civic Center, VA
Aug 20: Knoxville The Tennessee Theatre, TN
Aug 21: Chattanooga Soldiers and Sailors Memorial Auditorium, TN
Aug 23: Chesterfield The Factory, MO
Aug 26: Waukee Vibrant Music Hall, IA
Aug 27: Omaha Orpheum Theater, NE
Aug 30: Memphis Elvis Presley’s Memphis: Graceland Soundstage, TN

* with Scorpions and Judas Priest
∞ co-headline show with Judas Priest

Alice Cooper & Judas Priest: Co-headline tour

Sep 16: Biloxi Mississippi Coast Coliseum, MS
Sep 18: Alpharetta Ameris Bank Amphitheatre, GA*
Sep 20: Charlotte PNC Music Pavilion, NC
Sep 21: Franklin FirstBank Amphitheater, TN
Sep 24: Virginia Beach Veterans United Home Loans Amphitheater, VA
Sep 26: Holmdel PNC Bank Arts Center, NJ
Sep 27: Saratoga Springs Broadview Stage at SPAC, NY
Sep 29: Toronto Budweiser Stage, ON
Oct 01: Burgettstown The Pavilion at Star Lake, PA
Oct 02: Clarkston Pine Knob Music Theatre, MI
Oct 04: Cincinnati Riverbend Music Center, OH
Oct 05: Tinley Park Credit Union 1 Amphitheatre, IL
Oct 10: Colorado Springs Broadmoor World Arena, CO
Oct 12: Salt Lake City Utah First Credit Union Amphitheatre, UT
Oct 14: Mountain View Shoreline Amphitheatre, CA
Oct 15: Wheatland Toyota Amphitheatre, CA
Oct 18: Chula Vista North Island Credit Union Amphitheatre, CA
Oct 19: Los Angeles Kia Forum, CA
Oct 22: Phoenix Talking Stick Resort Amphitheatre, AZ
Oct 23: Albuquerque Isleta Amphitheater, NM
Oct 25: Austin Germania Insurance Amphitheater, TX
Oct 26: Houston The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion, TX

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Online Editor at Louder/Classic Rock magazine since 2014. 39 years in music industry, online for 26. Also bylines for: Metal Hammer, Prog Magazine, The Word Magazine, The Guardian, The New Statesman, Saga, Music365. Former Head of Music at Xfm Radio, A&R at Fiction Records, early blogger, ex-roadie, published author. Once appeared in a Cure video dressed as a cowboy, and thinks any situation can be improved by the introduction of cats. Favourite Serbian trumpeter: Dejan Petrović.

“Hardcore’s answer to Nirvana’s Nevermind.” Turnstile’s Never Enough is a landmark record for alternative music and an instant, undeniable classic

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In terms of mainstream acceptance and commercial reach, Turnstile might already be the biggest band in the history of hardcore. Their third studio album, 2021’s Glow On, was a proper smash hit, seeing the band embraced by everyone from the US talk show circuit to Glastonbury Festival. Due to Turnstile’s gloriously upbeat, melodically sun-kissed sound, some punk purist bores would deny that they are part of hardcore at all. Of course, that’s easily disprovable bullshit. Not only have Turnstile graduated from the highly respected Baltimore underground scene that gave the world the likes of Trapped Under Ice and Angel Dust, they share obvious musical DNA with the legendary likes of Bad Brains, CIV and Shelter – all of whom similarly embraced fun, lent heavily on a positive message of unity and created some wonderfully pop hook-filled music in the process.

Arguably, though, none of those bands have pushed the envelope as far as Turnstile – not only in terms of their sonic influences, which include alternative hip hop, yacht rock, funk metal and shoegaze, but in the sheer scale and number of people they’ve reached. Get Never Enough right, and Turnstile could be sitting on a landmark record, the likes of which this genre has never seen: hardcore’s answer to Nirvana’s Nevermind. If that doesn’t happen with this fourth full-length, then forget it: it never will. Never Enough is not just a brilliant album, it’s that rarest of things: an album that feels like it’s going to move the needle and reshape both the perceptions and the ceiling of a genre.

The sparkling synth that vocalist Brendan Yates croons over at the start of the opening title track is a beautiful way to open proceedings, and when a crunching half-time guitar, a propulsive rolling drum rhythm and a solo that sounds like Zakk Wylde playing The Stone Roses comes in, everything is elevated. It fizzles away before tagging in the mosh-stomp of Sole, a spectacular way to start the record.

From that point on, the quality never dips, Turnstile managing to somehow wrestle glorious pop nous nuggets from a punk rock framework. I Care combines hardcore two-stepping with shades of The 1975; Dull sounds like Sick Of It All meets Blur; Seein’ Stars mashes up Hall & Oates’ AOR pop with Jawbreaker’s gruff energy; and Dreaming is Gorilla Biscuits-go-mariachi. On paper it sounds like a gimmick and a potential disaster, but these songs are incredible. The highlight is the six-minute-plus Look Out For Me, which sounds as much like The Police and Tame Impala as it does Militarie Gun. It’s everything that makes Turnstile such a unique and special band.

It’s so unique that it’s hard to really know who Turnstile’s current peers are, relevant, forward-thinking contemporaries being few and far between. Irish indie rock crew Fontaines D.C., who utterly revolutionised post-punk with last year’s Romance album, are contenders, but in hard rock circles you’d probably have to go back to Bring Me The Horizon’s Sempiternal to find something that instantly felt like such a clear, era-defining blockbuster. Never Enough puts Turnstile where all the best bands end up: on an island of their own creation. And it’s going to be huge.

Never Enough is out this Friday, June 6

Stephen Hill

Since blagging his way onto the Hammer team a decade ago, Stephen has written countless features and reviews for the magazine, usually specialising in punk, hardcore and 90s metal, and still holds out the faint hope of one day getting his beloved U2 into the pages of the mag. He also regularly spouts his opinions on the Metal Hammer Podcast.